Sunday, September 16, 2018

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 5 topics

"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 09:00AM -0400

On 09/16/2018 08:52 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>> sexuality being a sin that separates one from God forever:
 
> .. off you egregious bigoted .. .. . You are just as
> distasteful as your so called religion.
 
Only to those who are perishing in their sin, Leigh.
 
God is the ultimate authority. Your problem is with Him,
not with me. You too are accountable to Him and His laws
and teachings.
 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jude+1%3A7%2C+1+Corinthians+6%3A9-10%2C1+Timothy+1%3A9-10%2CRomans+1%3A18-32&version=NIV
 
You are warned in advance because today you can repent of
your sin and be saved.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Sep 16 05:13PM +0200

On 16/09/18 14:53, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> Rick - You don't teach, and you don't listen
> Not only do I teach, David, but I point you to the Bible
> to go and learn for yourself.
 
I have plenty of experience of reading the Bible through my life - in
all frames of mind, including open and curious as well as sceptical.
You have no idea about me, what I know, what I have investigated or
learned. You think that you have a monopoly in the "truth" and that the
only reason people don't all follow your beliefs is that you they are
not reading the Bible correctly. You are wrong - it is as simple as that.
 
Let people read the Bible themselves and get out of it what they get out
of it - if there really is a god up there, he/she will guide them. No
one needs /you/ to try to tell them they are doing it all wrong.
 
And no, you don't "teach". You don't even know the meaning of the word.
(Here's a clue - if you really were encouraging people to find things
out for themselves, it would not be "teaching" and you wouldn't call it
that.)
 
 
> You won't listen.  It will be to your soul's destruction.
 
Then let that be /my/ decision, not yours - you are not in judgement
over me.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 12:04PM -0400

On 09/16/2018 11:13 AM, David Brown wrote:
> ...You
> have no idea about me, what I know, what I have investigated or
> learned.
 
Jesus said twice in Matthew 7:16,20 "You will know them by
their fruit":
 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A16%2C20%2CEphesians+5%3A9&version=KJV
 
> You think that you have a monopoly in the "truth" and that the
> only reason people don't all follow your beliefs is that you they are
> not reading the Bible correctly.  You are wrong - it is as simple as that.
 
I have never said that one time, David. I have said that
all people who seek the truth will find it. And that's not
me saying that, that's me repeating what the Bible teaches.
 
>> You won't listen.  It will be to your soul's destruction.
 
> Then let that be /my/ decision, not yours - you are not
> in judgement over me.
 
I never claimed to be in judgment over you. I teach you
that there is /ONE/ who is in judgment over you, and He
is unrelenting, save the grace given by His Son.
 
You do not know the teachings of the Bible, David. They
command us (Christians) to go forth and teach people these
things. Your teaching is for me to be silent and let each
person discover for themselves about God. That teaching
is from the anti-Christ whom you follow today.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
bitrex <user@example.net>: Sep 16 12:18PM -0400

On 09/16/2018 07:07 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> in full rebellion against God.
 
> It will be to your soul's destruction ... unless you repent
> and change your ways.
 
Disturbing imagery:
 
<http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4WL45_6fI_Q/maxresdefault.jpg>
 
Have a good look, pal. That child died crying for their mother to help
them and she couldn't do a thing about it. Know what I think? I think
God doesn't give one damn how "persecuted" the OP felt at his cushy job
with IBM or how uncomfortable he feels as a "Christian on the Internet."
As a Christian I guess I bet my soul on that position. so be it. OP
tells others to "repent" when one should surely consider carefully their
own.
bitrex <user@example.net>: Sep 16 12:24PM -0400

On 09/16/2018 07:07 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> His witness and example (consistently remembering and sup-
> porting God in his life) is what gives Him a name known in
> Heaven.  He is not just seeking a name known among men.
 
And for what reason would his name be written there? Writing "Christian"
software and typing words in a text box about his struggles with office
politics?
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 01:00PM -0400

On 09/16/2018 12:18 PM, bitrex wrote:
 
> <http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4WL45_6fI_Q/maxresdefault.jpg>
 
> Have a good look, pal. That child died crying for their mother to help
> them and she couldn't do a thing about it.
 
Go and help them. The image is before you, the calling upon
your heart to try and change it. You can be the difference
in their lives.
 
This world is full of evil because Christians don't speak up
and go forth and do. And people like David would have us be
silent, because that's what the enemy wants. The enemy wants
us to worship in our churches, and never have any impact in
our lives, never go forth and change our communities, never
go forth and teach others the things of Jesus Christ.
 
Those who are like me will soon be murdered by those who are
like you and David because we will continue to speak boldly
about Jesus Christ, that He is the /ONLY/ way to salvation,
and that all other paths lead to destruction in Hellfire for-
ever.
 
We are called to bring Jesus to the forefront of all our
endeavors. That is what Brian is doing with his labors by
his long-established witness.
 
> As a Christian I guess I bet my soul on that position. so be it. OP
> tells others to "repent" when one should surely consider carefully their
> own.
 
You should read the Bible and replace assumed supposition
with true fact.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 01:01PM -0400

On 09/16/2018 12:24 PM, bitrex wrote:
 
> And for what reason would his name be written there? Writing
> "Christian" software and typing words in a text box about
> his struggles with office politics?
 
For doing. For making the conscious choice to keep God at
the head of his life.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 01:17PM -0400

On 09/16/2018 01:01 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> his struggles with office politics?
 
> For doing.  For making the conscious choice to keep God at
> the head of his life.
 
Names written in Heaven:
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+10%3A20&version=KJV
 
20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits
are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because
==> your names are written in heaven.
21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I
thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that
==> thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father;
for so it seemed good in thy sight.
 
God has chosen the weak things, the ridiculed things, the
despised things of this world, to confound the wise. All
who are wise in their own sight do not yet know as they
ought, and are still on the path to destruction.
 
Those who come to a right knowledge of Jesus Christ are
taught from within that it's not about us, but rather Him.
It's not about our abilities, but about Him giving us our
abilities to use for Him and His Kingdom. It's not about
our greatness, but it's about His greatness living in us,
leading others to Him as well.
 
It's about Jesus, not us. We simply bring Him forward to
the forefront of our lives so we can not broadcast our-
selves, but broadcast Him living within us.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
bitrex <user@example.net>: Sep 16 01:53PM -0400

On 09/16/2018 01:17 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> despised things of this world, to confound the wise.  All
> who are wise in their own sight do not yet know as they
> ought, and are still on the path to destruction.
 
Foolish, dramatic people who, by their _own_ design, bring ridicule upon
themselves are only confounding themselves.
 
Software engineers who sit in cushy corporate offices and complain on
the Internet are not "weak."
 
 
> It's about Jesus, not us.  We simply bring Him forward to
> the forefront of our lives so we can not broadcast our-
> selves, but broadcast Him living within us.
 
You post OT material so much in disregard of other's explicit wishes
that I think one could definitely get the impression it is, in fact, all
about you. Is that the case, Mr. Passive-Aggressive Saved Man?
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 02:07PM -0400

On 09/16/2018 01:53 PM, bitrex wrote:
> themselves are only confounding themselves.
 
> Software engineers who sit in cushy corporate offices and complain on
> the Internet are not "weak."
 
It depends on the nature of the complaint. Spiritual
oppression afflicts kings and countrymen. There are no
people immune to this battle. No people on the side-
lines. Everyone is a player. It's just that some are
already so deceived that they don't even realize they're
owned by the enemy.
 
I have a day job. I get paid enough to keep a house and
send my son to a Christian school. That doesn't mean I
am free from spiritual oppression either.
 
Truth be told, I get a lot from this group. Not from the
posts people write, but the evil spirits they've let in
to their lives attacking me in my spirit. I've literally
had to take days off work at various times because of it.
 
 
> You post OT material so much in disregard of other's explicit wishes
> that I think one could definitely get the impression it is, in fact, all
> about you. Is that the case, Mr. Passive-Aggressive Saved Man?
 
Well, there's coming a day for all people who would call
what I post "off-topic" when they will, in that moment,
realize the absolute unending supreme level of importance
with which I speak, to the point where it will be the fore-
most thing on their minds. In fact, those people who stand
condemned by their own sin before God will criticize me for
not having done more.
 
Sin is the problem. Jesus takes our sin away, setting us
free from judgment, restoring us to eternal life.
 
Don't you want to live without sin? Don't you want to have
life after you leave this world? Don't you want to be with
God in His perfect Kingdom paradise?
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
bitrex <user@example.net>: Sep 16 02:23PM -0400

On 09/16/2018 02:07 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> Don't you want to live without sin?  Don't you want to have
> life after you leave this world?  Don't you want to be with
> God in His perfect Kingdom paradise?
 
Something that always bothered me about American-style proselytizing
lately is there's not nearly enough "fire and brimstone." It's very
passive-aggressive, like your last paragraph. I'll tell you what I know
of Christ. Did you look at the picture? You did that. Not an "evil
world." You. And me. Because we were born into sin. It's not nobody else
it's us. Who could ever forgive such a crime?
 
If any of the so-called "witnesses" here ever saw one ten billionth of
God's power revealed to them they would not be prattling on about their
work experiences. They would be smashed on their knees so hard they
wouldn't be able to stand up for the better part of five years, and
probably be blinded for ten. You feel "afraid"? You should be!
 
You don't "feel safe" in your work environment? Boy, it is _nothing_
compared to the terror you would feel if you had any idea what you were
dealing with or whose name you use. You want to go around and "speak
boldly"? You think you're bold? LOL! Wait until you hear a voice that's
really bold. I can see it may have never happened.
 
I believe God must be the most loving being because even after a crime
of the scale like the one in that picture forgiveness and salvation is
still on offer for humans. It is the most merciful thing ever, who else
would ever accommodate it than Christ. You want something more? You want
to not be persecuted or not be murdered or have a pleasant work
environment? It's not on offer sorry. Grace through Christ is all you
_might_ get. And know what? HE IS BEING FUCKING GENEROUS!!!
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 02:37PM -0400

On 09/16/2018 02:23 PM, bitrex wrote:
> of Christ. Did you look at the picture? You did that. Not an "evil
> world." You. And me. Because we were born into sin. It's not nobody else
> it's us. Who could ever forgive such a crime?
 
Sin brought us to this place, but Jesus gives us a new
life, and a new purpose in life. He extends the same
offer to all people world-wide continuously. Even those
who have never heard the gospel, in one way or another
He has presented Himself to those people, and all who
will follow Him will be saved.
 
There are many Christians who feel called to go off to
far away places and minister. A local family that was
in Boy Scouts with my son in the 2010-2012 felt the need
to go to Haiti. He and his wife sold their house, re-
arranged their lives for training, etc., and went. They
have been there ever since.
 
> work experiences. They would be smashed on their knees so hard they
> wouldn't be able to stand up for the better part of five years, and
> probably be blinded for ten. You feel "afraid"? You should be!
 
Each of us is called to remain where we were when we were
called. Some of us also then have a higher calling, but
God wants us to be bakers and lawyers and software developers
and bricklayers and welders and insurance agents for Him here
in this world.
 
It's about our heart, our movement toward our neighbor, how
we impact our communities, etc.
 
There are no towering giants in the Kingdom of God. Each of
us is a servant on equal footing. God has blessed some with
greater ministries, some greater callings, but each of us is
called to give back when He has first given us, meaning we
are all called to our utmost, no matter how small that effort
may be relative to other efforts.
 
You sit back and judge others for their contribution, for
their service to the Lord. That's not your right. It's not
for you to do. And with that degree to which you judge it
will be given back to you.
 
> dealing with or whose name you use. You want to go around and "speak
> boldly"? You think you're bold? LOL! Wait until you hear a voice that's
> really bold. I can see it may have never happened.
 
There are people who win court cases over these types of
mental anguish issues. The pressure people can feel in
their mental state is a tremendous cause for burden, loss,
gain, exaltation. It is our flesh, and the sin that lives
within our flesh, at work against us in this world.
 
I feel oppression in this world just going out into it.
They have a new policy here at local gas stations in Indiana
where they play music at the gas pumps. It's always worldly
music which sings about things that are unholy. I don't
know how to respond to that, and I feel stress and pressure
every time I have to go and fill up my tank.
 
The enemy is using these attacks against all Christians to
diminish them in their walk. But, the Lord warned us in
advance this would happen, and His grace is sufficient. We
go forth and do the best we can, and it is ultimately to
Him we are accountable.
 
> I believe God must be the most loving being because even after a crime
> of the scale like the one in that picture forgiveness and salvation is
> still on offer for humans.
 
You are correct. But that crime you see there perpetrated
against our temporary flesh is not on the same scale of that
which will happen to human souls in Hell for all eternity.
 
It is important for that individual to have food and to be
able to live, but even if they do not have food and do not
live, still their eternal soul can be saved.
 
For those who reject Jesus Christ, reject truth, there is
a far worse end than that image of their soul eternally
perishing in Hell.
 
> to not be persecuted or not be murdered or have a pleasant work
> environment? It's not on offer sorry. Grace through Christ is all you
> _might_ get. And know what? HE IS BEING .. GENEROUS!!!
 
I am not unwilling to die for Christ. I do not want to
die, but I am prepared to die if need be, because I know
to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
 
It is to the eternal loss of those who would kill us (kill
Christians) that I have concerns and focus. It is in the
outreach to those who will still be saved that I move by
having these many teachings.
 
I do not want /ANYONE/ to enter in to Hell. And I will
do my part to prevent it by these teachings. They are
given for those who will be saved, not for those who will
not be saved.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
bitrex <user@example.net>: Sep 16 03:01PM -0400

On 09/16/2018 11:13 AM, David Brown wrote:
 
>> You won't listen.  It will be to your soul's destruction.
 
> Then let that be /my/ decision, not yours - you are not in judgement
> over me.
 
Jesus Christ also really liked attention, too.
James Moe <jimoeDESPAM@sohnen-moe.com>: Sep 16 12:17PM -0700


> As a Bopper (Biblically oriented programmer) I wouldn't
> feel comfortable working for a lot of companies in 2018.
 
You are not a conservative, a political stance; you are a religious
zealot, probably an extremist. You wish to use your religious beliefs as
cover for bigotry.
Why would you not feel safe?
 
--
James Moe
jmm-list at sohnen-moe dot com
Think.
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Sep 16 12:23PM -0700

On Sunday, 16 September 2018 15:11:00 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> to teach you the reasons why I wrote what I wrote, so that the
> mis-thinking you have today can be corrected and replaced with
> the truth, rather than an assumed confusion / wrongness.
 
I wrote and you quoted:
> money. There a company worth anything that makes bigoted statements
> will be trolled into taking discriminating actions against employee
> or customer and then sued successfully.
 
To that you replied with your confused views about the laws and
government in USA and how god is in control. God may be in control
but suggests to obey human authorities (1 Peter 2:13) (Romans 13:1).
So if your bigoted actions are in conflict with human laws then
god won't defend you.
 
> > for to get a little material benefit or sometimes "just for lulz".
 
> Your statement here conveys a misunderstanding of what I
> wrote. Did you read what I wrote?
 
I there just repeated in different words what I wrote. What you wrote
did not address it. Instead you just demonstrated that you apparently
haven't ever been in place where human government is not in control.
About that I did not write at all.
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Sep 16 09:29PM +0200

On 16/09/18 18:04, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> I have never said that one time, David.  I have said that
> all people who seek the truth will find it.  And that's not
> me saying that, that's me repeating what the Bible teaches.
 
You don't accept that anyone can have found "truth" unless they happen
to have found the same "truth" as you believe . You are convinced that
you have a monopoly on truth - and what's worse, you think that you can
hide this from yourself and others by denying it.
 
> things.  Your teaching is for me to be silent and let each
> person discover for themselves about God.  That teaching
> is from the anti-Christ whom you follow today.
 
Again, you know nothing about me. You have no idea what I have read in
the Bible or learned from other places. You have no idea what
Christians I know, what we have discussed. You have no idea if I have
seen what is in the Bible, and follow it in the way I interpret it, or
reject it, or ignore it, or - as you and everyone else does - follow
some things and not others. You have no idea at all. All you know is
that I do not believe the same things you do, and in your unbounded
arrogance you think that makes me evil and you can insult me and accuse
me of anything you like - such as pronouncing judgement that I am a
"follower of the anti-Christ". Your level of selfishness, narcissism
and arrogance is an insult to Christians everywhere - and a close rival
to Mr. Wood "I'm the reincarnation of Noah and Jesus' appointed guardian
of C++" Brian.
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Sep 16 09:43PM +0200

On 16/09/18 19:00, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> us to worship in our churches, and never have any impact in
> our lives, never go forth and change our communities, never
> go forth and teach others the things of Jesus Christ.
 
As I said, you know /nothing/ about me - and I'll thank you to remember
that and stop passing judgement on me.
 
The world is full of /good/ - if there really is a god, you must hate
him thoroughly given how much you despair of the world he made.
 
But yes, there is evil in the world - far too much. And no, I would not
have people be silent about it. I can't solve all the world's problems
- but when someone spreads the evil of bigotry, prejudice and hatred
against people based on their sexuality, I shout out against it. I
would have /you/ be silent about your particular weird cult, or at least
keep it for those who are interested. And I would have religious nuts
like yourself get off your sanctimonious arses and do something /useful/
about the evil you claim to care so much about - instead of wringing
your hands, "praying", and inventing make-believe scapegoats.
 
> about Jesus Christ, that He is the /ONLY/ way to salvation,
> and that all other paths lead to destruction in Hellfire for-
> ever.
 
No one is going to murder you - you are not important enough for anyone
to bother. You might find someone will hit you over the head to make
you shut up, but it will not be me or anyone remotely like me.
 
 
> We are called to bring Jesus to the forefront of all our
> endeavors.  That is what Brian is doing with his labors by
> his long-established witness.
 
"Witness" - that's a laugh. Do you think using the wrong word often
enough makes it right?
 
>> surely consider carefully their own.
 
> You should read the Bible and replace assumed supposition
> with true fact.
 
If /you/ ever read it without your blinkers and your assumptions in
place, you'd find it is all about a guy who believed in love, respect,
freedom, tolerance and forgiveness. I see very little of that in
someone who claims almost everyone else is a devil worshipper, or in
people who spread mindless hatred and persecution of people based on
their sexuality.
Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Sep 17 07:49AM +1200

On 16/09/18 23:49, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> which leads to eternal separation from God in Hell.
 
> Here are the Biblical references in the New Testament to homo-
> sexuality being a sin that separates one from God forever:
 
So not only does your deceptive "god" create a universe where all of the
physical evidence points to it not being a recent creation but people
who born to be condemned by their nature? A truly evil god indeed.
 
--
Ian.
bitrex <user@example.net>: Sep 16 03:31PM -0400

I was reading this blog post about "mix-in" classes which combine
aspects of runtime polymorphism/dynamic dispatch, e.g. having a pure
virtual base class such that base pointers can hold pointer-to-derived
and call derived overloads, and static polymorphism where a particular
implementation's overloaded behavior is defined at compile time thru a
template "mix-in."
 
This lead me to thinking about how it could be combined with the CRTP in
some way. Specifically to perhaps address a problem I see with the
implementation shown there which is that the abstract methods defined in
class "Animal" in the example cannot easily return
implementation-defined custom types.
 
This is a sketch of an idea where the purpose is to have a CRTP
Interface you can plug an implementation into whereby if you use a
factory method to create an object by value you have a full set of
static polymorphism implementation methods available, if you use a
factory method to create a new pointer to base and put the
implementation there you have at least a subset of its CRTP-defined
implementation available to call via the -> operator on the base
pointer, and may return a user defined type of type T.
 
This is not working code, I messed around with variations on this for a
while yesterday and couldn't come up with anything that was very
satisfactory. Perhaps it isn't possible to do easily without a wrapper
container like std::function (not always available in the standard
library for some of the devices I use.)
 
Suggestions regarding other approaches to accomplish something in the
mix-in "spirit" I'd also be very glad to look at
 
class FooBase {
public:
virtual FooBase() = default;
 
template <typename T, ? ? ? ? > T do_a_foo() const { ? ? ? ? ? }
 
private:
virtual ????? something_that_helps_do_a_foo() const = 0;
 
}
 
template <typename T, template <typename Impl> class FooInterface {
public:
T do_a_foo() {
auto helper =
static_cast<Impl<T>*>(this)->something_that_helps_do_a_foo()();
return do_something(helper);
}
};
 
template <typename T>
class FooImplementation : public FooInterface<T, FooImplementation>,
public FooBase {
friend class FooInterface<T, FooImplementation>;
 
private:
???? something_that_helps_do_a_foo const override () { return ????? }
};
bitrex <user@example.net>: Sep 16 03:32PM -0400

On 09/16/2018 03:31 PM, bitrex wrote:
> I was reading this blog post about
 
Apologies the post I'm referring to is here:
 
<https://michael-afanasiev.github.io/2016/08/03/Combining-Static-and-Dynamic-Polymorphism-with-C++-Template-Mixins.html>
Stuart Redmann <DerTopper@web.de>: Sep 16 09:08PM +0200

> Linux or pronounced differently. There are many words like this so
> don't waste your time on this and instead write some good algorithms
> that people can use.
 
Stefan's a teacher, he just wants to pronounce it right. He also should
have mentioned this in his post. I come from Germany, too, and I was really
flabbergasted about the two different ways to pronounce "router". And the
other day I also wondered how to pronounce SFINAE.
 
For non-native speakers this list is quite informative, but whether it's
appropriate for a usenet is a totally different question. Given the low
(on-topic) traffic in this group, I'd say it can stay.
 
Regards,
Stuart
Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com>: Sep 16 01:45PM -0400

On 15/09/2018 21:55, Stefan Ram wrote:
> the IPA pronunciation notation and can see most Unicode 5.0
> characters in their newsreader. The American English
> pronunciations are given.
 
You're wasting your time. People can pronounce the words in any way
they think fit and some people will try to correct them but it is futile
IMO.
 
For example "Router" is pronounced differently in USA and England. Also
Linux or pronounced differently. There are many words like this so
don't waste your time on this and instead write some good algorithms
that people can use.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 02:02PM +0100

The last words of Jesus Christ:
 
"When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing near,
he said to his mother, 'Woman behold your son!' Then he said to the
disciple. 'Behold your mother!' And from that hour the disciple took her
to his own home."
 
That disciple was John whom Jesus, the gospels affirm, loved in a special
way. All the other disciples had fled in fear. Three women but only one
man had the courage to go with Jesus to his execution. That man clearly
had a unique place in the affection of Jesus. In all classic depictions of
the Last Supper, a favourite subject of Christian art, John is next to
Jesus, very often his head resting on Jesus's breast. Dying, Jesus asks
John to look after his mother and asks his mother to accept John as her
son. John takes Mary home. John becomes unmistakably part of Jesus's family.
 
Jesus was a Hebrew rabbi. Unusually, he was unmarried. The idea that he
had a romantic relationship with Mary Magdalene is the stuff of fiction,
based on no biblical evidence. The evidence, on the other hand, that he
may have been what we today call gay is very strong.
 
This is a great thing to celebrate indeed! Rejoice for Jesus Christ would
be welcomed with open arms in today's diverse society!
 
In following Christ's example I, Rick C. Hodgin, come out today as also
being gay! :D
 
--
 
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 09:16AM -0400

On 09/16/2018 09:02 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> [snip]
Please examine the headers. You will see that there is an
imposter pretending to be me. I post from Google Groups
or Eternal September only.
 
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To Leigh Johnston (the one impersonating me):
 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A11-12&version=KJV
 
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute
you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely,
for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward
in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were
before you.
 
You are blessing me in your hatred of God, Leigh.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 09:30AM -0400

On 09/16/2018 09:02 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> [snip]
 
To correct the false teachings of the imposter, homosexuality
is a sin explicitly named in the Old Testament and the New
Testament as a sin which keeps you out of Heaven.
 
Here are the New Testament Bible verses which support it:
 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jude+1%3A7%2C+1+Corinthians+6%3A9-10%2C1+Timothy+1%3A9-10%2CRomans+1%3A18-32&version=NIV
 
Jude 1:7 -- Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed
 
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 -- Lists homosexuality as a sin
which keeps you out of Heaven
 
1 Timothy 1:9-10 -- Lists homosexuality as a sin
 
Romans 1:18-32 -- Lists homosexuality among men and
women as a sin
 
Note: The reference in Jude 1:7 to Sodom and Gomorrah refers
to the Biblical teaching that the men of Sodom were
seeking to have sex with the men who entered the city
and went into Lot's house (Genesis 19:5):
 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+19%3A5&version=KJV
 
This perversion was why Sodom and Gomorrah were de-
stroyed BEFORE the day of judgment, to be an example
for all future generations of the fiery end which
awaits all who embrace homosexuality and other sexual
perversion, either by being an active homosexual, or
by supporting the lifestyles.
 
God is not mocked. On Earth we are given the space to reveal
to God and all of creation who we are. But when we die, the
bill for our choices comes due. If we received Jesus Christ
as our Savior, we do not face judgment, but have already passed
from death to eternal life. But if we reject Jesus, reject His
teachings, we face judgment, we will be condemned, and we will
be cast into the eternal lake of fire from which there is no
parole, no escape. It is literally only eternal torment to
such an extreme like being burned continually with a blowtorch.
 
Jesus offers to save you today. It's His great gift of love
and mercy given to us. And His gift is given to divide those
who will be saved, from those who will not be saved.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
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