"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 06:08PM -0700 On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 6:42:10 PM UTC-4, Daniel wrote: > > > Won't even watch it, will you, Leigh? > > Nonsense. > But it's true! because it's on the internet. Watch the video, Daniel. Judge for yourself. It has case after case after case from the secular world showing real-world proof that man walked with dinosaurs. There are buildings with dinosaurs hewn in stone on them from 2600 years ago. There are countless stories world-wide with famous stories of people slaying dragons. Marco Polo reported the Chinese emperor was raising dinosaurs to pull some of his chariots. As recently as 1611 the post of Royal Dragon Feeder was a hired position. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack): May 29 01:15AM In article <08e1df51-3e17-4bfc-967e-4316c7581f68@googlegroups.com>, >Marco Polo reported the Chinese emperor was raising dinosaurs >to pull some of his chariots. As recently as 1611 the post of >Royal Dragon Feeder was a hired position. heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh And Donald Trump is a master business man... Your claims above on a par with that one. Total fantasy. -- "He is exactly as they taught in KGB school: an egoist, a liar, but talented - he knows the mind of the wrestling-loving, under-educated, authoritarian-admiring white male populous." - Malcolm Nance, p59. - |
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 06:27PM -0700 On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:15:13 PM UTC-4, Kenny McCormack wrote: > And Donald Trump is a master business man... > Your claims above on a par with that one. > Total fantasy. It's easy to deny something when you don't see the details. Satan uses people's desire to do this to make it easier for them to dismiss the claims of God in the Bible. When you only glance at them, there's enough doubt injected by the enemy to make it seem unreasonable minimally, and ridiculous typically. That changes when you press in and examine the details, but Satan relies on people's laziness, their pride, their arro- gance, to keep them from pressing in and seeking the truth. Press in and seek the truth, Kenny. Watch the video and see 100s of examples from around the world, proof of dinosaurs living with man on this Earth in the past few thousand years. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: May 28 06:40PM -0700 On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:27:40 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > dinosaurs living with man on this Earth in the past few thousand years. Interesting. Why do you think scientists say that birds were the only dinosaur lineage to survive the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event 66 million years ago? Just out of curiosity, do you also believe in The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion? Best regards, Daniel |
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 07:36PM -0700 On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:40:21 PM UTC-4, Daniel wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrkYDzILgtA > > dinosaurs living with man on this Earth in the past few thousand years. > Interesting. Why do you think scientists say ... 1) Not all scientists say that. 2) Why would the enemy of God teach millions of years? Why would the enemy of God teach evolution without God? Seek of God, Daniel. He has all the answers you seek. He asks you to seek of Him and learn the truth. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: May 28 07:54PM -0700 On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 10:36:29 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:40:21 PM UTC-4, Daniel wrote: > > Interesting. Why do you think scientists say ... > 1) Not all scientists say that. Science as a body of knowledge says that. Paleontologists say that. Why would they say these things if they could easily be disproved? I'm still curious whether you believe in The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion :-) I think you probably do, as it would have been easy to say no. Best regards, Daniel |
fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: May 28 11:10PM -0700 W dniu środa, 29 maja 2019 04:54:45 UTC+2 użytkownik Daniel napisał: > been easy to say no. > Best regards, > Daniel youre trolling this group poor fella, jelping monstrous ass of imbecile hodgin to eclipse programming topics (so anybody will know youre troll at will) (same this little idiot fibble), stop trolling and move to dedicated spam place |
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: May 29 03:45AM -0700 On Tuesday, 28 May 2019 21:53:55 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > I answered your question. You cannot accept the answer because > it interferes with your view of the universe where God is not > required. Why to lie and to lose face? My mother side grandmother said "who lies that steals." There can't be any masters of this reality nor of any of hypothetical super-realities that would make me to disappoint the memories of that woman. I won't ever join for example Islam since Muslims are allowed to lie in the name of their/your God. |
leigh.v.johnston@googlemail.com: May 29 04:43AM -0700 On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 10:15:48 PM UTC+1, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > Him (physically, and metaphorically). > -- > Rick C. Hodgin So talking snakes with legs turned into snakes. Are you fucking retarded or what? /Flibble |
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 29 05:24AM -0700 On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote: > of hypothetical super-realities that would make me to disappoint > the memories of that woman. I won't ever join for example Islam > since Muslims are allowed to lie in the name of their/your God. Sometimes the questions asked are not the questions needing to be answered. You'll find this in life all the time. Re-read what I posted and you'll find the answer to your question. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 29 05:29AM -0700 > > the name "Lord." All people will ... even those who pierced > > Him (physically, and metaphorically). > So talking snakes with legs turned into snakes. The world of God's creation here on Earth was different than our world today. The animals did not fight or hunt each other. They had grass to eat for food, and man was given fruit from the various trees God created. It was only after sin that things changed. Trees and plants began to produce thorns, and thistles began to grow, etc. Satan completely changed this world when he tempted Adam and Eve to sin, thereby deceiving Adam into "handing over the keys to this world" God had given him. When Jesus returns, the Millennial Reign (1,000 years of Christ here on the Earth bodily) it will be like it was in the garden of Eden. > Are you .. retarded or what? Or what. :-) -- Rick C. Hodgin |
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: May 29 05:29AM -0700 On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:27:40 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > proof of dinosaurs living with man on this Earth in the past few thousand > years. Then why do scientists say that there isn't, that birds were the only dinosaur lineage to survive the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event 66 million years ago? Thanks, Daniel |
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 29 05:33AM -0700 On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4, Daniel wrote: > Then why do scientists say that there isn't, that birds were the only > dinosaur lineage to survive the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event 66 > million years ago? Because that belief aligns with evolution, and takes God out of creation, and therefore out of man's life and responsibility. If God is real, then everything about your life would need to change. Everything about all of our lives would need to change compared to the way this world guides us. So, as long as people can hold on to the belief that God is not real, they have a shot of Novocaine to get them through this life. However, they don't realize the time to give a full accounting of even every idle word comes at the end of this world, and all of mankind will be judged by the things they did here in this world. Many will be raised from death to face judgment, only to be con- demned by their own actions and cast into the lake of fire. It's why God commands us to go forth and teach, so that this won't happen to people. But even with His teaching, people still choose temporary sin here on Earth over eternal life. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: May 29 05:33AM -0700 On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 8:29:49 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > It was only after sin You mean sex? > When Jesus returns ... it will be like it was in the garden of Eden. No sex? Thanks, Daniel |
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 29 05:40AM -0700 On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 8:33:40 AM UTC-4, Daniel wrote: > On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 8:29:49 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > It was only after sin > You mean sex? You can read for yourself, Daniel: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3&version=NIV;KJV There are three times in scripture we hear the voice of the devil actually recorded. Other times we simply see his actions. 1) In the garden of Eden when he says to Eve: "God's not being good enough to you. He's withholding His blessing," when he tempted Eve to follow his guidance rather than God's so she would do something God had commanded them not to. 2) In the book of Job, when he says to God: "God, you're being to good to them. They love you because you're blessing them. Take away their blessing and they'll curse you to your face." This was referring to Job who was the richest man, and God agreed to put all Job had into Satan's hands, and Satan de- stroyed everything, even his family, and saved only his wife who later advised Job, "Curse God and die!" But Job remained faithful, and God blessed him with double what he had before Satan took everything. 3) In the wilderness, when Satan is tempting Jesus. Satan said: "All this has been given to me [referring to the Earth and its kingdoms], and I can give it to whomever I choose. Bow down to me and I will be better to you than God." Three times: 1) God's not being good enough to you. 2) God, you're being too good to them. 3) I will be better to you than God. He tries to sow division between man and God in 1) and 2). And in 3) he tries to swoop in to be the good guy. You'll find what sin has done to everything, Daniel ... if you seek to know. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: May 29 05:43AM -0700 On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 8:33:24 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > Because that belief Science isn't about belief, it's about theories, hypotheses, evidence, and peer review. Why are there no peer reviewed journals that provide evidence for these ideas that exist in your head? Thanks, Daniel |
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 29 05:47AM -0700 On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 8:44:05 AM UTC-4, Daniel wrote: > Science isn't about belief, it's about theories, hypotheses, evidence, and > peer review. Why are there no peer reviewed journals that provide evidence for > these ideas that exist in your head? It's a belief, Daniel. They weren't there. They don't know. They're guessing. And their guesses all take God out of the equation. It's actually a religion (the secularist / naturalist religion). The facts align with the Biblical narrative in all ways. I can take you through them if you'd like to know, but it's there for all to see. Everything will be fully revealed soon enough so faith is no longer required, but then it will be too late to be saved. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: May 29 06:07AM -0700 On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 8:40:14 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > when he tempted Eve to follow his guidance rather than God's so she > would do something God had commanded them not to. Ah yes, to have sex > Job's wife ... advised Job, "Curse God and die!" You can see her point of view, though, as God and the angel just had a bit of sport that killed off her children. Mothers don't like that. Still wondering if you also believe in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, but not wondering too much, I'm fairly sure that you do. Be well, Daniel |
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 29 06:14AM -0700 On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 9:07:54 AM UTC-4, Daniel wrote: > > when he tempted Eve to follow his guidance rather than God's so she > > would do something God had commanded them not to. > Ah yes, to have sex It was the choice. It was the choice they had to disobey God. God made the entire Earth for them and had given it to them. He then introduced one tree, called "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil," which they could not eat from. The rest of the entire Earth was theirs, but not this one tree. It was the choice, Daniel. To obey God, or not. And it was their choice to disobey God that introduced sin, and with sin death. > > Job's wife ... advised Job, "Curse God and die!" > You can see her point of view, though... > Still wondering if you also believe in... fir was right. You're just trolling, Daniel. You are not seeking the truth, but prefer to mock. I will keep you in my prayers. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: May 29 07:52AM -0700 On Tuesday, 28 May 2019 21:51:22 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > How many seeds to trees produce each year? How many of them become > trees the next year? How many trees do plants produce each year? > How many of those become plants? The explanations of science are making that obvious how it is not waste but necessity. Your "angels drive it" explanation however contradicts with those facts since there is obvious waste on that case. > Even females have how many eggs within their ovaries, yet how many > of those are emitted throughout their life? And why are those few > emitted? The explanations of science are making that obvious how it is not waste but necessity. Your "angels drive it" explanation however contradicts with those facts since there is obvious waste on that case. > nature of the physical aspect of our lives to be a particular way, > and without natural processes. Perhaps also the angel determines > which egg will be produced by a directive from God. Your "angels drive it" explanation suddenly makes the question not silly. > God is involved in every aspect of our lives. It is only sin > which prevents us from seeing Him moving as He is moving. :D *Bullshit* and lack of answer. "God somehow needed that waste for something." :D > proteins depending on how they are transcribed and by what, and > change any gene in those sequences and one of those machines will > fail, and the entire organism will breakdown. That is so indeed. Those are complex, maximally autonomously reproducible and survivable systems that have no apparent need for to constantly intervene or to drive those processes. > USB disk that was found somewhere ... it's obvious by its design > that the raw materials of atomic arrangements into forms and shapes > were designed, not produced naturally. It isn't. Shape of lake's bottom is information, shape of water in lake is information. You are attributing that information to God and also you are attributing to God that these shapes happen to fit so ultimately perfectly with each other? > > Nonsense. 5000 years is about 200 generations. > The Earth was different prior to the flood. People then lived to > be in their 900s regularly. Orthogonal, even if it is true they still did not born adult and so every next generation took time to mature before they could give birth to third generation and so on. About 200 generations is therefore still the number ... as is the 0.00067% of genome. We actually see lot bigger variety in current human population genomes so two person's bottle-neck 5000 years ago is out of question ... or do you claim that some of the titan/angel genes have also somehow survived? Then the Flood did fail. > Generally speaking, those who are non-viable will not produce off- > spring at rates of those who are viable. Over time, the lesser > strong gene lines will die off. Exactly. That is the definition of evolution. Evolution is change of frequencies of certain traits (effects or defects in given environment) over time. The trait can be possibly reduced to total zero or raised to universal to everybody over time. Or its carriers can find a way to cooperate with carriers of some other trait in mutually beneficial manner and so raise strength of both species and their traits. That cooperation is major, so presence of other organisms (with certain traits) is vitally important for vast majority of species. Snipping what I know nothing of. I know nothing of super realities nor of eternities. Also I won't buy your "facts" about it since you weren't there. > > We can now compensate the genetic defects with medical aid. > > Also we do have capability to read DNA from quite old bones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_DNA Nothing indicates that > > there was "perfect" set of it ever. Dogmas snipped, these are (some kind of) your interpretation of Bible about things that you know nothing of and have no other sources for but that book. > People like Leigh ignore the teachings and don't read them and post > replies like "tl;dr" and that is their decision cast into the books > being recorded in Heaven. I don't ignore ... I just don't believe it and am honest about it and also the reasons why. > they were. They self-condemn because they did not seek out the truth, > but were content to believe Satan's lie as though it were truth, and > that will be their judgment on Judgment Day. I see it differently. Some people just are more selfish and often choose to do unjust things (using whatever excuse). Other people are more good and (using again whatever excuses to justify) commit good, selfless acts. I trust good people prevail unlike you who seem to think you are surrounded by servants of Satan. But whatever fanaticism (religious, national, racial, political etc.) can make these good people to do evil acts (very selflessly and stupidly). That has nothing to with what was the teaching used as the source of that fanaticism. Again snipping your religious propaganda. It does not matter since I consider you to be one of those selfish, bad people who is additionally religiously fanatical. I have already expressed that if any of supernatural beings needs me for anything I'm here but I don't need any middle-men. > each sperm, how do the right combinations come together? We know in > scripture there are cases where people were born with specific attri- > butes. Was that coincidence? Or did God cause it to happen? Yes, but angel can choose the combination of chromosomes, why to manufacture that huge pile of randomly recombined ones and then pick one from lot of millions? The recombination process seems to have major problems in it so lot of sperms are defective in sense that these can miss portions of information and even whole chromosomes making them unlikely or even impossible candidates for fertilizing the egg. With large enough numbers of good sperm it does not matter, but with angel driving it all it does not make sense. > being, meaning He either directly or indirectly by sending His angels, > determines which egg and which sperm comes together, then He's discern- > ing between the multitude to pull out the one He desires. Again that "God somehow needs it, but regardless God does it" non-answer. > It's not being "dense," Öö Tiib. It's giving room for God to be a > part of what modern science would describe as an entirely random and > without God being involved phenomena. But no one should accuse God of everything about what they don't know if God does it or does not do it? So science assumes that the world works without God constantly tinkering like some sort of engine-man there. The opposite would mean that world is so imperfect that needs constant manual driving and divine interventions? Are you claiming that? I can't find any passages about it in your scripture. On the contrary, when God (or His angels) did intervene then they did it in manner that spectacularly ignored most laws of physics (that we know of) in your Bible. > From my perspective I might ask, "How can one be so unseeing as to > actually believe that God is not actively involved in all aspects of > our lives?" I have several times answered it. I see none good fruit of yours. Your God the Son suggested to watch for those. By several Gospels. So either your God does not exist or He does not like what you do and so does not bless you. Simple? > from God's Holy Spirit guidance if you're a born again Christian, or > from Satan's lies and false teachings over centuries if you're still > just of the flesh and have no spiritual life. I explained that I follow the guidance. It suggests to ignore you. So how you explain it? > > > flawed people in sin, teaching you something. > > I take position that is reasonable. Your alternative (that angels breed) > > is clearly nonsense. Snip the Old Testament angel/human hybrids and so on. I know it and it wasn't what I meant. > would include our attributes like strength, speed, stamina, mental > capacity, etc., as well as our placement here on this Earth, which > city, which parents, what time, etc. I also meant that. That angels drive the breeding of humans. Sorry for my bad English. In reality the amount of traits given forward seems to be statistically correct (so each of us gets about quarter of random chromosomes of each grandparent) and defects are carried on as statistically correctly as are the neutral traits and also the remarkably nice traits. That was first discovered by Christian monk, Gregor Johann Mendel, who was a scientist, Augustinian friar and abbot of St. Thomas' Abbey in Brno, Margraviate of Moravia. It was discovered in middle of 19th century. Modern days however it is become precise science not pea counting. So ... some are lucky and get more good traits but still manage to live horrible life. Others are unlucky with only few good qualities but somehow manage to polish those few to shine and to become world-widely honored masters of their field of work. > have not valued human life from conception will likely be judged by > God for that position after He, in Heaven, demonstrates how He was > not only involved, but intimately involved. I do not know anything of it. It is highly possible that you attribute to God things that He does not do. That can be extrapolated into accusation of causing miseries that He does not cause. You do that despite you do not know what (if anything) God does. I would be angry if you did that to me. > universe cools and solid bodies are formed. The goo coalesces and > out comes DNA systems which produce oranges, palm trees, coconuts, > parrots, polar bears, fish, gazelles, kangaroos and man. Really? I do not know about Big Bang. But I'm well convinced that simple mechanical processes can raise amazingly capable algorithms (genetic programming) and systems (deep learning). These can be of whatever kind. Just give enough time, resources and big enough variety of sample situations to solve for the systems to evolve and/or to train. Read up on it if interested. > Day. > Seek the truth, Öö Tiib. The truth will never fail you, for God is > truth. I don't fear your judgement days. I know that Heracles likely did not exist but I liked him. I know that Santa Claus (who likely does not exist) is old Norse Odin (who likely also does not exist) in disguise and I like him. I also don't know if Jesus Christ does exist (likely not) but I like him as well. And sometimes I feel that you are worse enemy to him than me. :D |
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: May 29 08:15AM -0700 On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 10:52:41 AM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote: > And sometimes I feel that you are worse enemy to him than me. :D Just so. Which suggests ... Daniel |
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: May 29 08:25AM -0700 On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 9:15:05 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > > Job's wife ... advised Job, "Curse God and die!" > > You can see her point of view, though... > You are not seeking the truth ... You can't see her point of view? She loses her children because of a wager between god and the angel? Won't that be upsetting to any mother? Daniel |
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: May 29 08:27AM -0700 On Tuesday, 28 May 2019 21:32:36 UTC+3, fir wrote: > besides, obvious to add, i dont know how well your intelligence is, but dont you know what will happen with those exchanges with this moron? > he will write a word bibble or God on his more than 2 meter diameter ass and will move that ass close to your face 9also closing it to all the others) - he always do exactly that > maybe spare that to this group fella.. I repeat: It must be trivial to ignore those [Jesus Loves You] threads even when you have no filters in your newsreader. |
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 29 08:55AM -0700 On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 10:52:41 AM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote: > waste but necessity. Your "angels drive it" explanation however > contradicts with those facts since there is obvious waste on that > case. How do you know angels don't determine which seeds wind up being germinated? Or even God Himself by the power of His own Holy Spirit. I do not remove the possibility because I know the power of God. > waste but necessity. Your "angels drive it" explanation however > contradicts with those facts since there is obvious waste on that > case. Same reply. > > which egg will be produced by a directive from God. > Your "angels drive it" explanation suddenly makes the question > not silly. Same reply. > > which prevents us from seeing Him moving as He is moving. > :D *..* and lack of answer. "God somehow needed that > waste for something." :D You will find out one day exactly how much God was involved in your life. The Bible said, "He causes the rain to fall on the just and unjust." People everywhere are kept from Satan's attacks. God restrains Satan from destroying everybody. During the upcoming tribulation that restraint will be withdrawn and the Bible says that if the mere seven-year period of time were not shortened, nobody would have survived, but for the sake of the elect (believers in that time), the time would be shortened. Angels are messengers sent to assist those who will inherit sal- vation (sent by God). This assistance takes on many forms. > That is so indeed. Those are complex, maximally autonomously > reproducible and survivable systems that have no apparent need > for to constantly intervene or to drive those processes. Agreed. But, they were explicitly designed to be that way. > > were designed, not produced naturally. > It isn't. Shape of lake's bottom is information, shape of water in lake > is information. That information is information about a natural formation. It's essentially data based on what exists. This is different from the information present in DNA, as it is part of an engineered system. There is an encoder on one side (within the DNA's design), and a decoder on the other (that translates the DNA into RNA, where it is optionally edited, where it is optionally sent through a protein- based machine which translates that 3-slot sequence into a protein chain that's then mechanically folded into the proper shape to be used for internal cell component construction. It's far more than just raw data that becomes information in a giv- en context. It is an entire system setup that takes the raw data in the DNA, and wields it properly to produce life. > You are attributing that information to God and also > you are attributing to God that these shapes happen to fit so ultimately > perfectly with each other? The design is self-evident. Even atheists like Richard Dawkins are now acknowledging that it looks like it's been designed, even if they are still unwilling to attribute God to it. Dawkins said in an interview that it's possible it's been designed, but that at some point prior Darwinian-like evolution would've caused the first sentient species to rise up, which then seeded the rest of the universe with an engineered design ... still denying God. > genomes so two person's bottle-neck 5000 years ago is out of > question ... or do you claim that some of the titan/angel genes > have also somehow survived? Then the Flood did fail. As I've studied the matter (minimally), they have done extensive research on the number of mutations, and the data they have points back to a mitochondrial Eve and/or a very small population beginning somewhere in Africa. I do not know the exact dates or years from their finding, but it's summarized here: https://answersingenesis.org/genetics/mitochondrial-dna/ The Bible timeline places creation (Adam and Eve living) approxi- mately 6,000 years ago. Jesus arrived approximately 2,000 years ago. The time of the Gentiles is nearly completed, and the next stage of man's existence on this planet is nearly here. Will it be today? Next week? Next year? Or after? Nobody knows for sure, but there are Biblical clues from past events where God did reveal general timelines to indicate it could happen at any time now. Israel is now more than 70 years old, with the Bible giving that time frame for significant events taking place, such as Jeremiah 29:10, where God promises after 70 years are complete to return and restore His people. It's been seven sevens (49 years) since the call to rebuild Jerusalem was given in the years after the Six Days War. The prophecies of Daniel about the end-most times where knowledge would be increased and people would go to and fro have been ful- filled. There has been a great falling away from the church, which was prophesied to happen before the end-times. And the gospel has been preached to all nations, which Jesus Him- self said would be a requirement before the end would come. We are there. When it will happen nobody knows, because scripture says we do not know the day or the hour, but only the season. We are given guidance, however, that when we see the fig tree put forth her leaves we know that summer is near (June 21), as a spec- ific time given by Jesus. We don't know when it will be, but all signs are here, so it will\ be soon. > > spring at rates of those who are viable. Over time, the lesser > > strong gene lines will die off. > Exactly. That is the definition of evolution. No. This is not evolution. This is adaptation. It is using the existing genome and selecting desirable traits from each generation to feed into the next. Evolution teaches that a non-dog became a dog at some point. That has never been seen to happen. Cannot happen. And is the position that denies God. God did design DNA so that traits could be exported. That's what He did from the beginning with Adam. Adam and Eve had every type of person that could exist encoded in their DNA. Their children would've been a gambit of styles and forms, looking like every type of person we see on the planet today, and possibly more that were lost when their DNA information was not contained in Noah and his family through the flood. It's how God was able to bring two of each KIND of animal, and later generate all of the species. Within those original kinds of animals were all the types that would be produced. This variation is part of God's design, so that a single KIND of cat would produce every cat that exists. The same for all animals. The same for all people types. > Snipping what I know nothing of. I know nothing of super realities nor > of eternities. Also I won't buy your "facts" about it since you weren't > there. Nobody doubts that adaptation occurs, but that is not the core pos- ition of evolution. Evolution states that nothing exploded and created everything, and that everything cooled and became our solar system, and the Earth cooled and it rained on the rocks for billions of years and created a primordial soup with the basic building blocks of life which then came alive and today we have all the forms of life on this planet. That is the evolutionary view that is not possible. Adaptation to environmental factors are possible, as we see everyday. Two completely separate things. > Dogmas snipped, these are (some kind of) your interpretation of Bible > about things that you know nothing of and have no other sources for > but that book. Christians are called to teach the things of God. If you will not read them or hear them ... that's upon you. I posted them explicitly to teach you the truth about God and God's design of all things. You would do well to re-read what I post, and place emphasis on it. > > being recorded in Heaven. > I don't ignore ... I just don't believe it and am honest about it and > also the reasons why. If you seek to learn the truth, you can ask questions about it. All of your questions can and will be answered. > I see it differently. > Some people just are more selfish and often choose to do unjust things > (using whatever excuse). It is always sin. God commands us (Christians) to mortify the deeds of the flesh. We are called to pursue Him in spirit and in truth, which are not of the flesh, but are of the spirit. When you see people doing things they should not do, it is exactly because of sin at work in that person's flesh, and the evil spirit influence which comes through that sinful flesh tempting them to do things other than what God would guide them to by His Holy Spirit, and the teachings of the Bible which align with His Holy Spirit. > political etc.) can make these good people to do evil acts (very selflessly > and stupidly). That has nothing to with what was the teaching used as > the source of that fanaticism. People span the gambit of willingness to do sinful things. Some people would NEVER steal, but have no problem drinking alcohol to excess. Others would NEVER gamble, but don't mind stealing some- thing if they can justify it. All of it is sin. What God calls us to is holiness, to trust in Him for all of our needs and desires, and to look forward to the life after this one more than the one here. Satan is a master deceiver though, and he will overcome those who follow the flesh. It's one way you can know who is saved and who is not (Matthew 7:16-20) ... WE would know them by their fruit (by what they do). > I consider you to be one of those selfish, bad people who is additionally > religiously fanatical. I have already expressed that if any of supernatural > beings needs me for anything I'm here but I don't need any middle-men. It's not religious propaganda. It is teaching you the truth about the Biblical teaching. If you do not want to learn the truth, that is your choice. > Yes, but angel can choose the combination of chromosomes, why > to manufacture that huge pile of randomly recombined ones and then > pick one from lot of millions? I have said from the beginning I do not know if this is what happens or not. However, I do not discount the possibility because I know the power of God. He can consider such things and factor it all in to His plans in moving mankind forward. Does it happen like that? I don't know, but I'm not prepared to say coldly, flatly, that it does not, and that instead it is all just random. > > ing between the multitude to pull out the one He desires. > Again that "God somehow needs it, but regardless God does it" > non-answer. God created the entire universe, the entire Earth, all that is here, not for its own sake, but to have a place to be with us (man). We are made in His own image and likeness. We are called the bride in the Bible (the church is the bride collectively), and He is called the Bridegroom. It is conveyed we will be "married" to Him in etern- ity. And just as marriages here join two people together, in Heaven all that He has will become ours, and all we have will become His. It is the "Marriage of the Lamb" for those who are saved. > > without God being involved phenomena. > But no one should accuse God of everything about what they don't > know if God does it or does not do it? Nor should they factor God out completely if they don't know if God does it or doesn't do it. God is intimately involved with mankind's entire history. Every life. Every person. He's called the friend that is closer than a brother. He knows your thoughts afar off. He is aware of the things you need before you are, and He accommodates those needs. God is comprehensively comprehensive beyond our ability to comp- rehend! He is not like us. He is greater. > So science assumes that the > world works without God constantly tinkering like some sort of > engine-man there. This is where science fails. It denies possibility in favor of the "political view" that they want to have about the universe. It is wholly wrong to do this. > The opposite would mean that world is so > imperfect that needs constant manual driving and divine > interventions? Sin introduced the imperfections. And God is at work within this fallen state to save those who will be saved, and is working all things (literally ALL things) for the good of those who will be saved. > about it in your scripture. On the contrary, when God (or His > angels) did intervene then they did it in manner that spectacularly > ignored most laws of physics (that we know of) in your Bible. There are miracles that take place, but they are not ignoring the laws of physics. They are using the abilities God created which we do not yet understand, but are part of His whole design. We may never understand parts of those things here in this world, but He has promised we will in eternity. > > actually believe that God is not actively involved in all aspects of > > our lives?" > I have several times answered it. I see none good fruit of yours. You are not capable of seeing "good fruit" of mine because you are only flesh, and you are not seeking the truth. The Bible states that the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, and it is true. People cannot place value on Jesus dying 2,000 years ago to save us here today. It's not possible to the flesh. But for those being saved, we have the spiritual guidance, and it teaches us what the flesh cannot know. And it is there that the truth is found, not in our flesh, which is why you cannot see value or goodness or truth or anything worthwhile in my arguments, and look at me only as a religious spammer. > Your God the Son suggested to watch for those. By several > Gospels. So either your God does not exist or He does not like > what you do and so does not bless you. Simple? He did, but the ones He told us to watch out for are those who do not teach properly about Him. They are the ones who are carnal, who teach worldly ways as if they were spiritual ways. Remember Jesus rebuking Peter, "Get thee behind me, Satan, for you are a stumbling block to me"? Even the saints can be deceived by Satan at times, and it takes a constant focus on God, and in constant prayer, and constantly seeking the Holy Spirit just to maintain in this world, let alone "get ahead," because the more you walk with God the more God lets the enemy attack you, just as with our own kids, the more they're able to do the more autonomy and self-authority we give them. Some grow up to become brilliantly contributing members of society, others wind up in prison for the many crimes they've committed. Each person reveals themselves as they grow and mature. The same is true in our Christian walks in pursuit of spirit and truth, not just in our worldly walks of the flesh. > > just of the flesh and have no spiritual life. > I explained that I follow the guidance. It suggests to ignore you. > So how you explain it? "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." You must seek the truth honestly, sincerely, truly, and then immerse yourself in God's teachings with that seeking attitude for God to be able to show it to you. "Seek and you will find. Knock and the door will be opened. Ask and you shall receive." The issue is not with God. :-) He's done His part wholly. > > > is clearly nonsense. > Snip the Old Testament angel/human hybrids and so on. I know it > and it wasn't what I meant. My point was the DNA of those angels corrupted our DNA, which is why God chose whom He did to re-populate the Earth after the flood. How- ever, even though God destroyed the Nephalim, some of their DNA did propagate beyond the flood, most likely |
"Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>: May 29 03:47AM +0200 This is actually just a test of whether I've misconfigured Thunderbird to killfile /all/ new articles in clc++, but, for the sake of asking a question: Let's say someone has the following valid C++17 code: ----------------------------------------------------------------- using Byte = unsigned char; constexpr auto is_utf8_tail_byte( const char ch ) -> bool { return (Byte( ch ) >> 6) == 0b10; } constexpr auto n_code_points( char const* s ) -> int { int n = 0; while( *s ) { ++s; while( is_utf8_tail_byte( *s ) ) { ++s; } ++n; } return n; } auto main() -> int { constexpr int n = n_code_points( u8"æøå" ); // Should be 3. return n; } ----------------------------------------------------------------- Now that someone upgrades the compiler to C++20, and suddenly the type of the literal is a very incompatible `char8_t[7]`. Assume the `constexpr` `n` is used for something very compile-time-ish, e.g. a buffer size. What to do? Cheers!, - Alf |
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