Friday, January 4, 2019

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 12 updates in 1 topic

fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: Jan 04 08:32AM -0800

W dniu piątek, 4 stycznia 2019 17:25:01 UTC+1 użytkownik David Brown napisał:
> based on his example - no more than we should judge Christians based on
> Rick's rather bizarre theology, or other such generalisations from
> single outlying cases.
 
sad for Polish Programmers,
in that case.... though some was able to represent something, dose of energy (to remember some i knowed like punki and arturro)..
 
polsh coders was good in the late 80-ties
poland was big country on Eu doemoscene as far as i kno, now i dont know how it look like (nothing special probabl;y)
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 04 12:17PM -0500

On 1/4/2019 11:07 AM, Queequeg wrote:
> obviously free to believe in any religion you choose and live by the
> Bible, as long as it's done with respect to the local law (I'd refrain
> from practicing stoning, for example).
 
You're concluding I'm mixing up two things because you're following
worldly advice, not Biblical advice:
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A16&version=KJV
 
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your
good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
 
> imposing one's beliefs on another human being, especially one who didn't
> came here for religious teachings, is what I consider a religious
> fanatism.
 
Again, you're concluding I'm the one making a mistake because you're
following worldly advice, not Biblical advice:
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+28%3A18-20&version=KJV
 
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given
unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the
name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded
you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the
world. Amen.
 
> There are many religions in the world, including atheism (which I consider
> a belief too) and there's no reason, other than feeling of superiority, to
> deny people their rights to choose their own belief system.
 
You are in error because you do not know the scripture, do not know
God, and are conflating things that have no business being ascribed
together into the same category.
 
It will be to your eternal destruction ... unless you repent.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 04 09:31AM -0800

On 1/4/2019 11:07 AM, Queequeg wrote:> There are many religions in the world, including atheism (which I consider
> a belief too) and there's no reason, other than feeling of superiority, to
> deny people their rights to choose their own belief system.
The Bible teaches, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of
God."
 
It is not people like me who convince people of Christ. None of us can
do it. However, God calls us to go forth and teach all nations because
He uses us in that increase.
 
Without hearing the word, how would you know what the truth is? When
it is heard, then He can affirm within your core that what you're hear-
ing is the truth, and He can use that to draw you in so that you can
come to Jesus, ask forgiveness, and be saved.
 
What I teach you is that while there are many "religions" in the world,
Christianity is not a religion. It's different. People try to make it
into a religion, but that completely removes the power of it, for the
true power of Christianity comes from Christ, not from us, nor even our
adherence to any Biblical rules and regulations. Those are all works-
based efforts.
 
What Jesus does is TAKE YOUR SIN AWAY, freeing you from judgment by God.
This restores you to a pre-sin state, bring your soul out of condemnation,
and your spirit comes alive, and you are then a changed being. The way
of life you knew before is supplanted by the new life that overshadows
all things in your existence.
 
You think of things differently. You look at things differently. You
consider and regard things differently. You are changed from within,
and not by any work of yourself, but by the REGENERATION of your dead
spirit life into new life being alive.
 
You lump things into a single category, Queequeg, because you are not
aware of the draw of God. You only look at things through what your
flesh-based mind can teach you, and that flesh-based mind is deceived
in sin, corrupt in sin, can only know physical things, and what the
Christians you'll encounter in your life will teach you is that there
is MORE TO OUR EXISTENCE than this mere physical world. There is the
spirit world, and our spirit nature.
 
It is from within that new life, that new spirit, that new spirit
nature that comes alive when our sin is taken away by Jesus, that is
then able to guide us into understanding things we could not under-
stand otherwise.
 
Christianity, forgiveness of sin by Jesus, the new life, the new re-
generation of the spirit into a changed physical life's focus here
on Earth ... these are not works of the flesh, but are acts of God
bestowed upon us by His free gift of salvation, forgiveness of sin,
and the new spirit nature which asserts itself over our prior life.
 
If you desire to seek the truth, you must seek it fully. Read the
Bible and study these things for yourself. Do not take my word for
any of it. Seek to learn the truth, because that truth WILL make
you free.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg): Jan 04 06:03PM


> You're concluding I'm mixing up two things because you're following
> worldly advice, not Biblical advice:
 
It's because I don't consider Bible to be special. I see it as a book
written by people for other people. Having the luck of living in a free
country I'm free to choose on my own what to believe in and what should
guide me in life.
 
> Again, you're concluding I'm the one making a mistake because you're
> following worldly advice, not Biblical advice:
 
Again, I don't feel the need to follow Biblical advices. I reject them
with all possible consequences, in the same way I reject Qur'an, The Book
or Mormon, The Watchtower and other books considered to be holy, sacred or
special by different religions and sects.
 
> God, and are conflating things that have no business being ascribed
> together into the same category.
 
> It will be to your eternal destruction ... unless you repent.
 
I appreciate that you care for my eternal destruction, but it's my freedom
to take care of that myself.
 
You're only human, Rick, not a prophet, a messenger or a chosen one.
 
By the way, I recently read a book called "Stolen Innocence", written by
Elissa Wall.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Innocence
 
The book is about growing up in a FLDS sect.
 
Your words about worldly influence, knowing God, eternal destruction and
the need to repent sound exactly like those of Warren Jeffs, a
self-proclaimed prophet of the FLDS.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Jeffs
 
This is exactly what I call religious fanatism.
 
--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSzL1DqQn0
queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg): Jan 04 06:03PM

> based on his example - no more than we should judge Christians based on
> Rick's rather bizarre theology, or other such generalisations from
> single outlying cases.
 
Thanks, David. I appreciate that.
 
--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSzL1DqQn0
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 04 11:52AM -0800

On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 1:03:30 PM UTC-5, Queequeg wrote:
> It's because I don't consider Bible to be special.
 
Read it again. This time seek the truth in your reading, and don't
have the attitude of already concluding it's just a book written by
men, but rather take heed of the teaching that it's a book written
through men by the prompting of the Holy Spirit, a force that acts
on men to write the things of God as by that spiritual input He
gives.
 
God can move men to move per His guidance. And evil spirits can
move men to move per their spirit guidance as well. It's why so
many people are addicts, or caught up in sin they don't want to
be a part of but can't seem to stop. They're fighting an invis-
ible enemy, one the Bible can teach you about, as it also teaches
you how to overcome it (through Christ).
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg): Jan 04 08:51PM


> Read it again.
 
I have other books waiting to be read -- ones that actually will be
interesting and pleasant for me to read.
 
> of the teaching that it's a book written through men by the prompting of
> the Holy Spirit, a force that acts on men to write the things of God as
> by that spiritual input He gives.
 
I see no reason to believe in this force.
 
You do, it gives you strength and that's okay. But trying to force others
to convert to your beliefs is not.
 
This is for you, Rick:
https://me.me/i/faithless-vagabond-l-cant-do-that-because-of-my-religion-17940452
 
--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSzL1DqQn0
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 04 01:56PM -0800

On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 3:51:09 PM UTC-5, Queequeg wrote:
 
> I see no reason to believe in this force.
 
> You do, it gives you strength and that's okay. But trying to force others
> to convert to your beliefs is not.
 
I do not try to force others. What I teach you is the truth.
It is before you for you to explore and come to understand...
if you will do so.
 
I have no reason to lie to you, Queequeg. I am not asking you
for money, or trying to get you to join the church I belong to,
or do any other thing than simply this: I want your sin to be
forgiven. I want you to have eternal life. I want you to go
on after you leave this world, alive, prospering, in God's own
Kingdom.
 
I have no other aspirations, short of being able to call you
"friend" in a fuller way.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: Jan 04 02:11PM -0800

W dniu piątek, 4 stycznia 2019 22:56:59 UTC+1 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał:
> Kingdom.
 
> I have no other aspirations, short of being able to call you
> "friend" in a fuller way.
 
this way youre ideal as a imbecile that can be put into a catapult and fired to
people whose life you want to destroy
 
imbecile missile dick
fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: Jan 04 02:19PM -0800

W dniu piątek, 4 stycznia 2019 23:11:26 UTC+1 użytkownik fir napisał:
 
> this way youre ideal as a imbecile that can be put into a catapult and fired to
> people whose life you want to destroy
 
> imbecile missile dick
 
missile of mental degradation
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 04 02:43PM -0800

On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 5:19:53 PM UTC-5, fir wrote:
> > > "friend" in a fuller way.
 
> > imbecile missile ..
> missile of mental degradation
 
I would like to be able to call you friend too, fir. You are
creative, you think about things in atypical ways. I would like
for us to be able to work together on things, rather than being
the enemies you make us out to be.
 
My hand of friendship is extended.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: Jan 04 02:50PM -0800

W dniu piątek, 4 stycznia 2019 23:43:44 UTC+1 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał:
> for us to be able to work together on things, rather than being
> the enemies you make us out to be.
 
> My hand of friendship is extended.
 
im not friend to psyhopaths, dik.. it would be like friendship with a zombie (and zombie 'defines' this friendship as a feeding his friends with bulshit, and eating his friends brains... so no, tnx
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