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| fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: Jan 09 01:18AM -0800 > > all sinners. Sorry if I got that wrong Rick. > Why do seem to deny saying that we are all going to burn, even the kids, > IF... its rather obvious it not god wanted to destroy those homosexual but some historical imbecile moron like our dick wrote it to make shit of brains of another 'psyhopath diks' thru centuries if god would say that this god would be not much distinguishable form monster and those idiots worship monster then (that remark was exactly pointed by ome youtuber i seen) history is a long parade od dik-like psyhopaths.. stuopid dik is just another one for me its interesting that imbecile dik is much stupider than some ufo-man i know (by ufo man i mean some man programmers who say that grays control people minds along with special forces and also that righteous aliens had some contract with god which afair also limits the grays) this ufo man is much much more intelligent than dik (except those theories which are even quite interesting) he is like mostly normal or even average normal i mean he can oppose to some average stupidity of normal users dik kompared to him id heavy medical imbecile and i wonder if it general case , i mean religious imbeciles are regularelt far more mentally blocked or if it just a coincidence... overall i repeat dont harm this group and dont treat dik (which is harmfull psyhopath) as a legitimized user - if you talk with this idiot at least talk to him as you know it is an state of imbecilism not something normal this way this imbecilism has harder to cover everything around |
| fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: Jan 09 01:29AM -0800 W dniu środa, 9 stycznia 2019 10:18:17 UTC+1 użytkownik fir napisał: > overall i repeat dont harm this group > and dont treat dik (which is harmfull psyhopath) as a legitimized user - if > you talk with this idiot at least talk to him as you know it is an state of imbecilism not something normal this way this imbecilism has harder to cover everything around dik is medical idiot and its hard to improve such medical imbecile but more normal people would take more responsability on the deed of legitimizing that kind of idiots which then can pour the stupidity in the world its a question of real harm and real human responsibility (in that case it is responsiblity of that legitimizers) |
| gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack): Jan 09 11:14AM In article <JHhZD.33367$Rq1.15793@fx21.fr7>, Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> wrote: ... >real Rick C. Hodgin thinks homosexuality is a "perversion". The real Rick >C. Hodgin thinks his so called "gay friends" are perverts. What a really >horrible person the Rick C. Hogin actually is. Yep. That is the game, by the way. The religious zealots play like they're all sweetness and love (lots of "I love you"s and "jesus loves you"s and so on) most of the time. But every once in a while, just so you know they're serious, they've got to let the iron fist behind the velvet glove show. Every once in a while, they've got to remind you that if you don't do what they say, you'll really, really regret it. Like a mob boss does. -- The randomly chosen signature file that would have appeared here is more than 4 lines long. As such, it violates one or more Usenet RFCs. In order to remain in compliance with said RFCs, the actual sig can be found at the following URL: http://user.xmission.com/~gazelle/Sigs/Aspergers |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 09 03:18AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 12:41:42 AM UTC-5, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > forgiven. > Why would I destroy something if a good person, that happens to be gay, > is in there? There are no good people, except Christ. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23): https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+3%3A10-18&version=KJV 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: 14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: 15 Their feet are swift to shed blood: 16 Destruction and misery are in their ways: 17 And the way of peace have they not known: 18 There is no fear of God before their eyes. ----- You seek by worldly knowledge, eyes, and understanding. God is foreign and unknown to you because you are already convinced your beliefs are right. This keeps you separated from God (your pride). -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 09 03:29AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 2:49:09 AM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > real Rick C. Hodgin thinks homosexuality is a "perversion". The real Rick > C. Hodgin thinks his so called "gay friends" are perverts. What a really > horrible person the Rick C. Hogin actually is. What does the Bible say? God's standard is the only true standard. That doesn't mean you're rude or mean or hateful or hurtful to homo- sexuals. You still love them, help them, teach them, be kind and giving to them. Homosexuality is a sin like any other. It is a particularly strongly attached / entrenched sin because of the type of evil spirit involved, but Christ frees people from homosexuality every day. Versed 24, 26, 27, plus context: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A16-32&version=KJV 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. ==> 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. ==> 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: ==> 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. ----- Until God opens your eyes, Leigh, you can only think you're on the right path because sin owns you, and all that goes with sin. When Jesus sets someone free from sin new life enters in, spirit life, and that life changes everything about you from the inside out. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 09 03:40AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 3:11:00 AM UTC-5, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > all sinners. Sorry if I got that wrong Rick. > Why do seem to deny saying that we are all going to burn, even the kids, > IF... Original sin is real. We are born into this world without the spirit nature, being already dead in sin, condemned to eternal Hellfire. This world is not our final destination. It is a portion of our existence, one which is physical. It's all we have though because of sin because our spirit died when Adam sinned. It requires the forgiveness of sin to be regenerated, to be born again (of the spirit). It's why Jesus did what He did, coming here to save us because this is where our sin is, and this is where He had to take our sin away. God is not unjust. I believe Jesus will save every child who does not reach the age of accountability, an age where they become accountable for their choices in this world. God already kbows who will believe in Him and who won't, for He exists outside of time and sees the beginning and end of our life together, and all the years between. Salvation comes to those who will believe when the time is right. God works everything continually for good. He plans things, sets days and seasons and times. He has a purpose for each of us, even for those who reject Him, and all of it works together to maximize the number who will be saved. God is good all the time, and all the time God is good. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 09 06:17AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 6:14:17 AM UTC-5, Kenny McCormack wrote: > Every once in a while, they've got to remind you that if you don't do what > they say, you'll really, really regret it. > Like a mob boss does. If you look at my message going back to the first ones I posted, you'll see a consistent theme. A consistent attitude toward each person. And whereas my knowledge of scripture has increased over time, my understanding of the core nature and goal and out- reach of God remains the same because it's imprinted within me by the spirit nature. You see things in the world, Kenny, and the way some people be- ave which are inappropriate, such as the type you outline above, people who profess to be Christians but then show another side from time to time. And whereas those people and types of people do exist, you do yourself and other a disservice by lumping into one category all people who would come to you with the message of salvation, of a knowledge of sin, of the need for repentance, asking forgiveness, and even true holiness in this world. You will know true Christians by their love, and by their witness over time. Each person is subject to a bad day, or to respond in a moment in a way they wouldn't respond if it were another day, with a different set of immediate pressures. But you must look at people's walks over the long haul, over the many trials, over the long time. Sin has people pinned down into only knowing and believing false- ness. Their minds are deceived by its nature, by its inability to distinguish between its own self-generated thoughts and the thoughts induced by evil spirit entities seeking to keep men and women in bondage to sin, to encourage them to be pursuing it all the more. It is those who desire from within their own self-component to know the truth, to seek the truth, to not be deceived, to believe that there is something more, whom God draws out from their life of sin, and sets their course toward salvation. I teach you these things because I want you to be saved. I want the other people in this group and the other groups saved. I teach you these things because the path of salvation begins by searching for the truth with passion. You have to come to the place in your own thinking where you're willing to say honestly, "Lord, I don't know if you are real or not, but if you are real, I want to know the truth." People who sincerely get to that place can be drawn in. But those who harden their heart against God, and rise up in ongoing rebellion against Him, denying He exists, saying that He is some trait He is not (like cruel because children get bone cancer, never realizing that bone cancer is the result of sin and not God's creation or doing, but that He Himself came here to set us free from sin, taking on our punishment and shame to keep us from the eternal effects of sin, even if some temporal effects remain here on this Earth) ... those people will never come to know Christ so long as they remain like that because He does not reveal Himself to those who only seek falseness. The person keeps up the barrier between themselves and God by their hate, by their love of lies, etc. God is holy and completely pure. What He seeks in us is that same holiness and purity. He knows we cannot attain it on our own, which is why He came here to take our sin away and to set us free from the condemnation, judgment, and punishment of sin. He wants us to be with Him where He is, to see His true Kingdom, to see Him in His full glory, to share with Him the wonders of His amazing universe. But He will not open up that incredibly valuable and precious gift to those who are belligerent, rebellious, calloused, cold-hearted, who only seek after personal gain, who revel in the lie, and the like. It would be like a rich parent giving their undisciplined 16 year old a brand new Rolls Royce. They would quickly destroy it and likely other things and people... But such gifts are reserved for the mature, those who are able to receive it, those who have a certain attitude and air about them that is of self-governance, of doing what should be done for the right reasons. God's Kingdom is a place of truth and beauty and holiness and love. It is a place where all people and angels and God will dwell to- gether without the pains we see here in this sin-cursed, sin-ridden world. No aging. No pain. No heat of day, nor cold of night. It is God's Heavenly domain, the place where He has created to be His permanent Home, and He has created within that Home a place for us to share and occupy and reside with Him, exploring the full nature and wonders of His Kingdom. What God calls us to is everlasting. It is in all ways good and desirable, and in no ways negative, harmful, hurtful, or anything other than goodness manifested. The call is made from the cross, where Jesus (God) personally demonstrates His love for us by taking away our sin. His death, burial, and resurrection testifies of our guilt in sin. He then extends His arms to us saying, "Here am I, come to me and I will give you rest." He stands at the door of our heart and mind ... and He knocks. He wants to come in and sup with us, and us with Him. He wants to be a part of our Earthly life, and our eternal life. He wants to restore our spirit so we can begin our new life in His Kingdom even while we are yet here on this Earth. He is using multiple techniques to reach each of us. And for all who show that small- est glimmer of the possibility of hope in believing there is a real truth, He meets them where they are and does the rest, draw- ing them from within to the foot of the cross where we meet Jesus and are forgiven. There's a book called The Pilgrim's Progress. It goes through a story explaining in a particular way the many trials a man goes through in coming to that foot of the cross. It's one of the best-selling books of all-time behind the Bible in religion. It was written by a man named John Bunyan in the 1600s. He was put in prison for preaching about Christ, but they never locked the door. They left the door unlocked and said, "You can leave at any time if you agree to stop preaching about Christ." He re- mained in prison 13 years despite having many family difficulties that would've made it easy for him to justify his need to leave the prison and go and attend to his family. And while there in the prison, Bunyan wrote The Pilgrim's Progress, a book which has impacted so many lives. It's available online and in most bookstores, including Amazon for the Kindle. Audio Books for Free has an audio version of it. You should read or listen to that book and see if you can't re- late to what real-world struggles there are for Christians, and man in general, as they go through life. It is an excellent book to read alongside the Bible, as the Bible teaches us about God, about us, about sin, about judgment, about Jesus, and about eternal life, and within that teaching are the many facets of our lives revealed ... and The Pilgrim's Progress conveys the same information in another way that many find quite illuminating to the meaning of scripture. In any event, you do yourself and others a disservice by lumping all people into the same general category. Each person is unique and has a unique combination of factors to which they are assem- bled. You would do better to approach each person individually, without pre-conceived notions and conclusions regarding them by your initial summary assessment. You should look beyond the out- ter appearance, probe deeper, seek out the truth of the matter, and not just in people, but also in God and in the Bible. It would be to your better end, Kenny. It would serve you well. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: Jan 09 07:40AM -0800 W dniu środa, 9 stycznia 2019 15:17:29 UTC+1 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > ter appearance, probe deeper, seek out the truth of the matter, > and not just in people, but also in God and in the Bible. > It would be to your better end, Kenny. It would serve you well. end it moron, too much bandwidth wasted |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 09 08:00AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 2:49:09 AM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > real Rick C. Hodgin thinks homosexuality is a "perversion". The real Rick > C. Hodgin thinks his so called "gay friends" are perverts. What a really > horrible person the Rick C. Hogin actually is. From a sermon I heard today. Begins around 10:08. It describes how this pastor would welcome homosexuals into the church, that he does not condemn them to Hell but desires they be saved into Heaven (at 11:55): Of Twain, One Body (Pastor Charles Lawson) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12o42o2H6hE&t=10m8s He speaks about how there is so much falseness in the church, and it's not meant to be that way. You have to learn to separate the falseness of the false witness of those who say they're serving Christ, compared to those who really are. The way you can separate the two is by KNOWING what the difference is. You learn what the difference is by reading the Bible personally, and looking at what it says, rather than what you see people doing, or not doing, or what you might think they are doing, or not doing. The Bible is the great teacher because it is the word of God given to man for this purpose, with God Himself corroborating its writings on the inside by the spirit. Note: This pastor is a little over the top, but his message is good. He's a little over-animated vocally, but his message is accurate in most everything I've heard him teach on. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 09 08:50AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 11:00:22 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > Note: This pastor is a little over the top, but his message is > good. He's a little over-animated vocally, but his message is > accurate in most everything I've heard him teach on. This sermon wound up being a very powerful message about the true nature of the born again Christian, how he/she is to be, and how the world perceives us. You have to learn to separate the bad stuff that's easily identi- fied as being bad, from the true guidance of the church that is so rare that when it's observed out in the world (such as here in this forum by my posts), people often mistake it for something like a street-corner man saying, "The End of the World is Nigh!" The discerning individual will see the difference. The one being guided by the Holy Spirit will know the difference. Jesus came to save those the Father gives to Him. He came to save the lost, the sinners, the ones who know they are a wretched soul and are in need of salvation. He came to wash our sin away and give us eternal life. Do not conflate born again Christian guidance unto salvation, with the raving lunacies of madmen who state things that are not solidly part of scripture, backed up by verse after verse, and teaching after teaching. Learn to separate the Stuff (upper- case s, the right teachings of God) from the stuff (lowercase s, garbage). The video is an excellent sermon. He teaches revival, and a proper attitude toward reaching those who do not yet know Jesus. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jan 09 09:30AM -0800 On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 4:12:12 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > ing with sincerity to know the truth of what it said, and I even > did this with the intent / purpose in my heart to dismantle the > Bible piece-by-piece, proving it wrong Wrong in what sense? In the sense that you might read a version of Joyce's Ulysses, and critique its use of earlier manuscripts? Which texts did you start with, when you began to read them critically? Thanks, Daniel |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 09 10:11AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 12:30:19 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote: > > did this with the intent / purpose in my heart to dismantle the > > Bible piece-by-piece, proving it wrong > Wrong in what sense? That it wasn't inspired of God. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jan 09 10:38AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 1:11:43 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > > Bible piece-by-piece, proving it wrong > > Wrong in what sense? > That it wasn't inspired of God. Okay. Inspired. Not inspired. What criteria did you use, to select one over the other? Did you compare with other books? Could you give us an example of one of the passages in the texts, and how you applied your criteria? Genuinely interested, Daniel |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 09 10:40AM -0800 I'll tell you what will happen to those who die rejecting Christ on Judgment Day. You'll be awakened from what seemed like a tiny sleep. You will have died however you died, and your soul will go to rest until that final day. When you awaken, you'll be in Heaven, you'll have your spirit, you'll be given an eternal body, and you'll be led by angels to the place where you'll be judged. You'll experience everything Heaven has to offer from your cur- rent vantage point, and you'll feel young and live and strong and shiny and new and you'll be so happy and rejoicing, thinking to yourself "So, this is what the afterlife is like!" But it won't take you too long to realize that you're not going to be in that part of Heaven for very long. That the time of your end as a free will in this universe is upon you. You'll stand naked and alone before God. The evil spirits who gave you boldness, attitude, rebellion, fire, that "fight" in the pit of your belly ... they will not be there with you. It will be the naked, alone you standing before God, seeing Him in His glory, seeing that which He has created in its glory, and the weight of the reality of your rebellion against this incredible life-giving God, and against all that He has called you to throughout your entire life will begin to fall upon you, and you will begin to weep and wail and moan and cry out and say it's not fair and that you didn't know and every other thing you can imagine. The judgment will be doled out as the book of your life is opened and your sin is exposed for all to see. The sentence will be commanded and you will be taken, forcibly, by very powerful angels who will bind you up and hold you tightly, to the edge of the lake of fire, where you will be cast in head- long, end over end, until you splat down on the surface of the fire and submerge. Your new body will not consume by the burning, but will endure it. The pain it sends to you will be excruciating, to the point that if you merely had a flesh-based body and mind you would pass out. But, this is your eternal body, your glorified body, and you will not pass out. You will be in unending agony and torment forever and ever and ever ... and there will never be another scrap of content written about you in God's universe ever. The entire story of your history of existence will have been read in that final judgment courtroom before God, and all that will remain of you in eternity is your condemnation, and you carrying out your own sentence, the one Christ came here to rescue you from by His own death at the cross in your place, but you would have none of it. There will be no atheists on Judgment Day. There will be no agnostics on Judgment Day. There will be no fence-sitters on Judgment Day. There will be no uncertainty in one's mind on Judgment Day. The truth will be known, and that truth will consume every bit of every lie that's ever existed fully, to the extent that not one shred of any of it will remain anywhere. God keeps His House clean, and those who are redeemed by the blood of the Lamb (by Jesus at the cross) will be saved. The rest will languish forever in a burning lake of fire from which there is no parole, no reprieve, no good days or bad days, but always only tormenting agony forever and ever, the rightful place for one who truly denied from their core into everything they did the truth, and the One who is Truth. ----- It doesn't have to end that way for anyone. Everyone can come to Jesus right now from where they are and ask Jesus to forgive their sin and they will be saved. The only people who enter into Hell will be the ones who sent themselves there because God has done everything to reach out to everyone world-wide. Bibles printed in the millions, Christ- ians everywhere teaching people the way to salvation, a church on every street corner in many cities, and within the normal course of travels on a daily basis for most people. Access to content on the Internet, Christian radio stations, TV programs. And what will someone's excuse be on Judgment Day? I saw people who called themselves Christians doing bad things. I didn't want to be like them so I rejected Christianity. "Did you ever think maybe I wasn't like those who do bad things?" ... What will you say to Him, when you're standing there, face-to-face, looking at Him in the eye? ----- There is a way to escape all of that. It is to acknowledge that you are a sinner, and to ask Jesus to forgive you. Note: I didn't ask you to join a church or send anyone money or other such thing. I simply asked you to acknowledge that you do have sin, and that you are guilty before a holy God, and that you do need to be forgiven, and to ask Jesus to forgive you. Do this and He will begin a new work within you, guiding you to where you should go, for all who come to Him become part of the "Body of Christ," which is the true church (unattached to a building, but rather as servants / ambassadors / royal priests of His Kingdom). I offer this teaching up to you because you won't hear it from the world. The world will tell you you're just fine. But, you are not. With your sin still charged to your account, you are headed only one place. I teach you THE WAY OUT of that end. I teach you the GOSPEL (the GOOD NEWS, for that is what "gospel" means) ... that is this: you can be saved. Jesus has come here to save you. He's willing, able, ready, and wanting to save you. Just ask Him. And do it today, right now even. Begin your new life as you look up from your screen. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jan 09 10:50AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 1:40:35 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > I'll tell you what will happen ... Just so :-) But let's go back a bit, to that time when you "began studying the Bible" Inspired. Not inspired. What criteria did you use, to select one over the other? Did you compare with other books? Could you give us an example of one of the passages in the texts, and how you applied your criteria? Thanks, Daniel |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 09 10:58AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 1:38:37 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote: > > > Wrong in what sense? > > That it wasn't inspired of God. > ... Genuinely interested, Here's what I did to find it: I set my eyes on knowing truly what it said. I wanted to know if it was the truth of God, or if it was something else. I assumed it was something else, but I wanted t KNOW FOR SURE. Because I was serious in my wanting to know, I was truly seeking to understand the truth of the Bible, and as I began to read it that was my goal. Because it was my goal, God knew that I was truly seeking the truth, being willing to move away from my current place of thinking I was right if, in fact, I was wrong. Be- cause God saw that reality in me, He drew me to the truth from with- in. If you follow the similar pattern, you will experience what I did. All who seek the truth do. It's not a promise from me, but from God: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+29%3A13&version=KJV 13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. It says "me" there, but you are seeking Jesus, because He is Truth. When you seek the truth, you are seeking Him, even if you don't yet know it ... He will show it to you. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14%3A6&version=KJV 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. He is the gateway, because only He can take our sin away, and it's only Him because of what He did at the cross (born sin-free, lived a sin-free life, went to the cross innocent before God, but condemned by man, able to take on our sin before God, and then die with our guilt charged to Him, freeing us from our guilt). ----- I think also about the sacrifice of the Jews. One thing they offer is a burnt offering: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+1&version=KJV The Bible records the type of burnt offering, its traits or attributes: 3 If his offering be a burnt sacrifice of the herd, let him offer a male without blemish: he shall offer it of his own voluntary will at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the Lord. Christ became this offering for us, and while He suffered the pain and torment of His flesh being severely injured before He died, as He was dying the Bible records He let out a great cry, and then gave up the Ghost: https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%2027:50 50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. We've all heard reports of people at the point of death experiencing things on the other side. In that moment just before death, they are able to see into the spirit world and are aware of what is com- ing for them. Jesus was severely beaten. He had lost a lot of blood. Hours be- fore, as He was carrying His cross to the place of His crucifixion, another came along to help shoulder the burden. It is likely His physical body was so weak, and certainly not at the top of His nor- mal abilities. And yet, from this reduced state ... He lets out a loud cry and then yields up the Ghost. Other books record that He said, "It is finished" and "Into your hands I commend my spirit," and then He gave up the Ghost. So, when you put these different eye witness accounts together, it would go like this: "Father, Father, why have you forsaken me?" [The transfer of sin had been complete, and God turned His back on His own Son because He had become sin in our place.] "It is finished." "Into your hands I commend my spirit." [Loud cry] [Death of the body] Why the loud cry? Going back to Leviticus, why did God demand a burnt sacrifice? I believe if you put these together, it is a hint, an inkling, a bit of proof that shows what Jesus did pay for our sin, that He took on the punishment we deserved, and it was so horrific that here on Earth, even in His reduced state, even as He was giving up the Ghost ready to leave this world voluntarily, as the first- born male (of Mary), one without spot or blemish (He had been innocent before God), who voluntarily was given at the alter (He chose to take on our sin by His own free will), and then He was given the equivalent of our punishment, which was some kind of torment and burning far beyond what He experienced here on Earth in the flesh. I've never heard that preaching before, but I can see it being a possibility when you put all of the factors together. ----- In any event, I sought the truth about the Bible, about the true knowledge of God (if it was real or false), and God led me to it. I had the dream which woke me up and imparted knowledge to me like a rivot that I could not deny, which, by the way, happened exactly 9 months previous to my conversion to the day. I was saved on July 31, 2004 and the dream happened on the night of October 31/November 1, 2003. I've always found that timeframe interesting. Seek the truth and God will reveal Himself to you and then you will know as I do. You cannot come to this knowledge any other way. You seem to be seeking an analytical answer in your re- plies to me. You won't find one. You cannot make God come to you as you are, or where you are. You must be willing to get up and move to where He is ... and you are not there right now. What I teach you is how to make that move. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 09 11:03AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 1:51:01 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote: > the other? Did you compare with other books? > Could you give us an example of one of the passages in the texts, and how > you applied your criteria? I've told you the way to find God. You won't find Him any other way. You must be willing to cast aside all of your conclusions if they are proven wrong (by God, by the Bible). If you can get to that place in your true thinking, then God will do the rest. You are not there. You are looking for proof of God: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+16%3A4&version=KJV 4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed. And: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+12%3A38-41&version=KJV You have to set your sights on the truth, lest ye never find it otherwise. You are not there today. You're looking for some proof, some technical flesh-focused solution. It won't ever happen that way. Only when you step forward in faith saying, "I don't know if you are real or not, but if you are I do want to know the truth." If you can honestly get there in your heart, He will draw you in. If you remain the skeptic, you condemn your own soul. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 09 11:04AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 1:51:01 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote: > On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 1:40:35 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > I'll tell you what will happen ... > Just so... I advise you to read what I wrote in its entirety. I'm not lying to you, and the information I gave you will guide you toward sal- vation. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu>: Jan 09 07:29PM > willing to bet your soul on that? Or wouldn't you rather > change tactics and keep quiet about your religion, and so stop > making things worse for yourself and everyone else? The actual outcome of an action is inadmissable evidence in any Christian ethical system (cf. Bertrand Russell). -- Neil Cerutti |
| gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack): Jan 09 07:39PM In article <79f4e5e0-7d71-41db-b9e4-5d7ade28a238@googlegroups.com>, Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote: ... >I advise you to get on your knees and suck my cock. Just like a mob boss. Do what I say or suffer the consequences. -- The randomly chosen signature file that would have appeared here is more than 4 lines long. As such, it violates one or more Usenet RFCs. In order to remain in compliance with said RFCs, the actual sig can be found at the following URL: http://user.xmission.com/~gazelle/Sigs/Voltaire |
| Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jan 09 11:46AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 2:04:23 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > I advise you to read what I wrote in its entirety. I did, and I believe you when you say that you see messages that you believe come from god, which seem real to you. The fact that others such as myself Mr Flibble and David Brown don't see the same messages does not invalidate your inner reality. And you're certainly not alone. The great mathematician John Nash, when asked how he as a man devoted to reason and logical proof could believe that he was being recruited by aliens from outer space to save the world, replied that the messages he received from aliens came to him in the same way as his mathematical ideas, so he had to take them seriously. If you're wondering about my earlier questions, I wanted to understand if the texts influenced your beliefs or if your beliefs determined how you read the texts, and I think it's clear from your answers that it's the latter. Best regards, Daniel |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 09 12:05PM -0800 On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote: > I wanted to understand if > the texts influenced your beliefs or if your beliefs determined how you read > the texts, and I think it's clear from your answers that it's the latter. I sought the truth. What happened on the inside of me was something new I had never experienced before. It was the spirit prompting me in ways my flesh could not. Coming to faith in Christ is not like other things. It is new life. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 09 01:01PM -0800 On 1/8/2019 4:38 PM, Kenny McCormack wrote: >>> What about my friends, Stan, Kyle and Eric? Are you praying for them, too? >> LOL! > Thank you! Glad to see that someone is following along at home... I wonder if Rick knows that you have actually visited the afterlife many times. Too many times. Poor Kenny. ;^) |
| Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>: Jan 09 10:12AM +0100 Whatever you get told about learning the core-language: You shoud read "The C++ Standard Library: A Tutorial and Reference" from Josuttis also. |
| "Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Jan 09 07:35AM -0800 On Tuesday, 8 January 2019 15:10:06 UTC+2, Manfred wrote: > More precisely, I do not agree with those who claim that a new feature > is inexpensive if you don't want to use it - even if you don't use it, > you need to know about it, and this is not cost-free. Worst are silently breaking changes when some reasonable and well-formed code is still well-formed but behaves differently. Noisy breaking changes (like change of meaning of keyword "auto" was) are lot easier to comply with. So indeed the issue is that weak, rarely used or controversial features are very rarely removed or straightened up and instead numerous of semi-useful or loose things are added. For example in C++17 most of changes that were done were adding likely rarely helpful features: * more kinds and more places for [[blah_blah]] attributes. These are rarely used and are ugly. * In template-template parameter typename is allowed as synonym to class. More anarchy. * auto deduction of braced-init list changed. That braced- init-list was badly thought thru and who did auto-deduce from it without desire to confuse others? * structural auto binding of elements of arrays, tuple-likes and structs. Expecting more meta-knowledge around that "auto" usage. * utf8 char literal does not do what one would expect. * hexadecimal floating point literal is likely rarely useful. * fold expressions for variadic templates, again rarely needed syntax sugar. * if constexpr ... disappointment, does not do what one would expect. There are some other, more useful features but only few. |
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