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| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 07 10:55AM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 1:36:58 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > > saved. > What a complete and total lie you deceitful .. . As with most Christians > you basically think lying is OK to get your message across. You misunderstand. I do not seek conversion in the sense you indicate. What I seek for people is for them to come to Jesus personally, to ask Him to forgive their sin personally, so they can be saved personally. It's different than "conversion to my faith." It's different than religion. It's different than anything else you'll experience in life, because it is the NEW LIFE, the spiritual life, which, just as with our first birth into the natural, only God can facilitate that new life into our dead selves (due to sin). It's entirely an act of God. How God uses each person who's saved after that regeneration into new life ... that will vary based on the individual. I do not expect people to join the church I belong to. I expect them to take up their cross and FOLLOW HIM DAILY, which means where they are in their life, the people they're around, the things they're good at, the experiences they have, all of it will be brought to bear BY GOD into their purpose in His body of Christ. You have much to learn, Leigh. You're blind and unwilling today. You may come to seek at some future time. Remember these posts I write when that day comes. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jan 07 06:59PM On 07/01/2019 18:55, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > I do not seek conversion in the sense you indicate. What I seek > for people is for them to come to Jesus personally, to ask Him to > forgive their sin personally, so they can be saved personally. Another fucking lie. You can deny all you like that what you are doing is shilling for Christianity but that is exactly what you are doing and you know it. [snip tl;dr] /Flibble -- "You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais "I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Jan 07 07:13PM >know it. >[snip tl;dr] >/Flibble Actually, like most who consider themselves "born again", he's trying to justify his beliefs by attempting to convince others to share them. No different than Jones or Koresh. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 07 11:14AM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:00:06 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > Another .. lie. You can deny all you like that what you are doing is > shilling for Christianity but that is exactly what you are doing and you > know it. My goal is the goal of Jesus Christ, of God the Father, of all of the current guidance of the Holy Spirit regarding mankind: the salvation of our souls individually from sin. I teach people how to be saved from judgment, Leigh. I teach them how to get right with God. I teach them how to remove the burden of sin they carry, that weights down their soul and diminishes their life and walk. ----- Biblical Christianity is the only religion that teaches about Jesus in this way, as Savior, as God, coming here in the flesh to save us where we were lost. It's called "Christianity" be- cause of Christ. It's very straight-forward, Leigh. But, I do not expect you to understand or believe. You are unable to do so: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+2%3A14&version=KJV 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+1%3A18&version=KJV 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. You can only see it being religion or a conversion of a person to the faith. You cannot see it as regeneration into new life, nor as an act of God. It is only something natural to you, a trick, a deceit, a lie, a way to pervert someone's life, to dom- inate over them, to control and manipulate them into giving away their money or other such thing. You would naturally believe I am lying, because you lack what is necessary to have a knowledge that I am telling the truth... you lack the spirit nature, and all knowledge of it. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 07 11:15AM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:13:56 PM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote: > Actually, like most who consider themselves "born again", he's > trying to justify his beliefs by attempting to convince > others to share them. No different than Jones or Koresh. See my reply to Leigh, as you too fall under that same category being unable to know the truth so you only conclude it as a lie. The difference is in the fruit, Scott. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jan 07 11:36AM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 12:46:46 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > In the Old Testament [God] commanded that certain people be killed Only certain people? You mean "kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey" 1 Samuel 15:2-3, or "devoted all in the city to destruction ... both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys, with the edge of the sword" Joshua 6:21, or "sixty cities ... devoted them to destruction ... every city, men, women, and children ... no survivors" Deuteronomy 2:34, or "kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey" Deuteronomy 3:4-6. Today we would call this genocide. These were the stories of the ancient Israelites, as they took territory from the previous inhabitants. Daniel |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 07 11:41AM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:36:56 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote: > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 12:46:46 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > In the Old Testament [God] commanded that certain people be killed > Only certain people? You mean "kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey" 1 Samuel 15:2-3, or "devoted all in the city to destruction ... both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys, with the edge of the sword" Joshua 6:21, or "sixty cities ... devoted them to destruction ... every city, men, women, and children ... no survivors" Deuteronomy 2:34, or "kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey" Deuteronomy 3:4-6. Today we would call this genocide. These were the stories of the ancient Israelites, as they took territory from the previous inhabitants. Why would God command that some people be killed? And who were the ones He commanded be killed? What were the circumstances of their existence / nature, that He would order them to be killed? I am seriously asking this question. Consider your response eq- ually seriously. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jan 07 11:51AM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:41:40 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > Why would God command that some people be killed? Because this god is the god of the Israelites, and the Israelites are taking territory from its previous inhabitants. It's about territory and control. Daniel |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 07 12:11PM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:51:31 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote: > > Why would God command that some people be killed? > Because this god is the god of the Israelites, and the Israelites are taking > territory from its previous inhabitants. It's about territory and control. If the spirit nature is real, and because of sin we died spiritually that day Adam sinned, and we are now only flesh, and if evil spirits do exist and are able to inhabit physical bodies (as we learn in the New Testament with Legion and the 2,000+ pigs) ... and if God is a- ware of the spirit nature and influence of evil spirits in people who 1) sin, 2) are not part of Israel following accurately, purposefully, after God's many rules and regulations to keep themselves holy, would it not stand to reason that God would command that certain people and groups of people be killed because God is trying to keep His own na- tion spiritually clean? God commanded people who sin be put to death. Why? Because tempta- tion to sin comes from the anti-Christ spirit, and once a person ac- quiesces to that temptation, that evil spirit gains a legal license to enter in to their body and begins corrupting their mind, their thoughts, their goals, their wants, their wishes, their drives, their desires, etc. It's why we see so many people try marijuana one time and then progress further and further into hard drugs, and eventually even stealing and horrible things to support their habit. They've let in that evil, and it grows and tempts them to more, and it eventually pins that life down. God sought to keep His nation of Israel free from that evil spirit influence. He game them multiple rules and regulations so they were focused on discipline, on service, on not allowing sin to enter in. And when it did, He commanded those people be stoned so they would not influence and subsequently ruin the entire nation. Was Israel always obedient to God? No. They did not follow His command to kill everyone God commanded them to kill, and what was the result? Time and time again Israel went into capture and bondage to other nations because of their disobedience. The same things happens to Christians today when we sin again after being saved. Our flesh-focus weakens our spiritual focus, and we are sent off in contrary ways by the corrupting evil spiritual influence. It's why Jesus commands us to obey those things He has commanded even here in this age of grace, so we too can be kept holy, pure, free from evil spirit influence, but in this age of grace we are no longer called to be stoned to death, but rather to be taught and drawn back in, as the process of sanctification for a Christian caught up in sin is lengthy, even years and sometimes a decade or more. ----- In any event, God has sought to keep His people free from the evil spiritual influence in this world. He commanded that some people, animals, etc., be killed, even the children, because He was able to see and know the true cause of that sin and wicked- ness, and only by killing the physical body would those evil spirits be released into a way they cannot influence the society, lest they again tempt another to commit sin and enter in, and that's a much more difficult thing to do than simply exist in a body and exude your evil thoughts continually into that host. God has always sought to keep His people pure. They were not always obedient and we see the result of the world's state today with sin everywhere, corruption everywhere, the anti-Christ spirit at work in people everywhere... but all who put their faith in Jesus will be saved. They will be made alive spiritually, and will overcome to the anti-Christ spirit at work against them in this world. It is the process of sanctification, and it takes time, but it will be part of everyone's life who is born again, and is hearing the guidance of God, as they are no longer alone in this world, yet God is with them, dwelling with them even. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack): Jan 07 08:17PM In article <7881e5e0-a3f0-4f4a-aaaf-01ec97e96c77@googlegroups.com>, -- "You can safely assume that you have created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do." -- Anne Lamott |
| Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jan 07 01:03PM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 3:11:52 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > If the spirit nature is real, and because of sin we died spiritually So you're okay with the idea of mass genocide, killing everybody and everything, man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey? As long as it's attributed to the will of a deity? Do you think there could be circumstances in which, for instance, the Rwandan genocide might be considered justifiable? Or the killings of isis? Interested in your thoughts, Daniel |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 07 01:11PM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 4:03:57 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote: > > If the spirit nature is real, and because of sin we died spiritually > So you're okay with the idea of mass genocide, killing everybody and > everything, man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey? How many people die, Daniel? How many animals? Is 1%? 5%? 15%? How many? If God gave everything life in the first place (something only God can do), and only God can end a life here (by withdrawing the spirit of life from the body), how is God unjustified in determining the day and hour of those acts for which He is already responsible (life giving spirit, and the retrieval of it)? God was looking to save generations of people not yet born. He was looking to keep generations of people from being corrupted by the sinful ways of those pagans Israel was commanded to kill, those Nnn deaths saving billions over time. Would God have been justified in letting those corrupted people living, and corrupting all of Israel so that they were completely lost? How many billions would die then, Daniel, caught in their own sin, destroyed completely by God sparing the few "bad apples" in the early days, so that the many bushels would be spared in the latter days? You think in worldly-only terms, natural terms, Daniel. You are unwilling or unable to see things from a larger perspective. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 07 01:12PM -0800 On 1/7/2019 1:03 PM, Daniel wrote: >> If the spirit nature is real, and because of sin we died spiritually > So you're okay with the idea of mass genocide, killing everybody and > everything, man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey? I did ask him if the ants that violently murdered my crickets, tearing them apart; dissecting them limb from limb, should burn in hell. Jesus! I forgot if he even replied. However, he did seem to suggest that a kid will burn in hell for doing nothing wrong, if said kid does not worship correctly. He called it eternal punishment for original sin, or something along those lines. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 07 04:21PM -0500 On 1/7/2019 4:12 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > I did ask him if the ants that violently murdered my crickets, tearing them > apart; dissecting them limb from limb, should burn in hell. Jesus! > I forgot if he even replied. Hell is for angels who fell, but Hell has enlarged herself to take on the pomp and arrogance of man. It is only for angels and man, not for animals. > However, he did seem to suggest that a kid will burn in hell for doing > nothing wrong, if said kid does not worship correctly. He called it eternal > punishment for original sin, or something along those lines. I never said that, Chris. Never hinted at it. Do not believe it. And I even actively taught against that very statement this weekend in our church service. You are slandering my name by making such a claim and I demand a public apology from you here in this forum. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jan 07 01:30PM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 4:11:27 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > So you're okay with the idea of mass genocide, killing everybody and > > everything, man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey? > You are unwilling or unable to see things from a larger perspective. I see, so in your "larger perspective" you are okay with the idea of mass genocide, including killing the children and infants, for the "purity" of the population. You are correct that in my "worldly-only", "natural" terms, I am not. Daniel |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 07 04:34PM -0500 On 1/7/2019 4:30 PM, Daniel wrote: > I see, so in your "larger perspective" you are okay with the idea of mass > genocide, including killing the children and infants, for the "purity" of > the population. I recognize the authority of God, and I recognize His decision to save billions at the cost of thousands, though it would've been His will that even the thousands turn away from evil and follow Him, but they would not, just as you (today at least) will not. > You are correct that in my "worldly-only", "natural" terms, I am not. You do not see. Some day you will. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jan 07 10:08PM On 07/01/2019 21:11, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > Would God have been justified in letting those corrupted people > living, and corrupting all of Israel so that they were completely > lost? Yeah those donkeys, those corrupt donkeys. Bad donkeys. Bad donkeys defying the Christ-spirit before Christ was canon. Smite the donkeys. Kill the donkeys for they know what they do. /Flibble -- "You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais "I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 07 02:14PM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 5:08:34 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > Yeah those donkeys, those corrupt donkeys. Bad donkeys. Bad donkeys > defying the Christ-spirit before Christ was canon. Smite the donkeys. Kill > the donkeys for they know what they do. Living bodies serve as the host for interaction into this physical world by a spirit being, Leigh. They cannot interact with this world naturally because they do not have natural faculties. They most takeover a host and then they can interact. It's why our television is so corrupt, our movies, our music, be- cause the evil spirits who are here are seeking more and more hosts for their fellow brethren, to the point where our world has turned profane, moving in every possible way against God and His guidance. This world is utterly lost. Completely compromised. Only those who come to Jesus will be saved out of it, because only Jesus can wash away our sin by His own blood sacrifice/atonement at the cross. You mock what you don't understand. It is to your discredit. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jan 07 10:17PM On 07/01/2019 22:14, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > wash away our sin by His own blood sacrifice/atonement at the > cross. > You mock what you don't understand. It is to your discredit. Oh I understand perfectly: I mock you because you are full of shit. /Flibble -- "You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais "I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 07 02:42PM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > > Living bodies serve as the host for interaction into this physical > > world by a spirit... > Oh I understand perfectly: I mock you because you are full of .. . You are aware of this naturally. Have you ever seen someone die? One moment their body is inhabited by the spirit of life, the next it is gone. The body remains, but there's no life in the eyes, no breathing, no movement, no response to stimuli. The body remains as a physical shell, the spirit having been withdrawn. The same type of spirit input from evil spirits is able to impact our flesh. It is not the same spirit as our life spirit, but it is spiritual input nonetheless, and it can impact our flesh, our thoughts, our feelings, our emotions. Go and ask born again Christians. Ask them about the change that took place the very moment they asked Jesus to forgive them. They will say how they could feel the freedom coming, the new life, the casting away of their old wants / wishes / desires. It's why new born again Christians change their lives so much. They change most everything overnight and persist in those changes for a time. But the enemy regroups, and comes back at them to try and corrupt their thinking again, so they compromise God for the sake of their fleshly wants. I tell you the truth, Leigh. Remember these posts. They will teach you when you are ready to learn. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jan 07 10:46PM On 07/01/2019 22:42, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >>> Living bodies serve as the host for interaction into this physical >>> world by a spirit... >> Oh I understand perfectly: I mock you because you are full of .. . [snip tl;dr] > I tell you the truth, Leigh. Remember these posts. They will teach > you when you are ready to learn. You are so full of shit, Rick C. Hodgin. /Flibble -- "You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais "I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 07 02:55PM -0800 On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 5:47:00 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > [snip tl;dr] I advise you to read those things you skip. They have information that will literally save your soul from eternal damnation in the lake of fire. It's important. Please consider these things. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jan 07 10:59PM On 07/01/2019 22:55, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > that will literally save your soul from eternal damnation in the > lake of fire. > It's important. Please consider these things. It's important. Please consider how so full of shit you actually are. /Flibble -- "You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais "I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: Jan 07 10:44PM On Sat, 2019-01-05, Unto Sten wrote: > Since then, C++ Book 4th edition has appeared, > covering C++11. > But after that we have C++14 and Bjärne says in: Bjarne. There's no ä in the name (or in the language). ... > incorrect usage of C. So many chances to create > nasty bugs when falling victim to undefined behaviour > and so on. Maybe I'm lazy, but from my point of view you can read the 3rd edition and learn to write good C++. IMO, the line between old and crufty C++ and modern C++ is C++98, when the standard library containers appeared and (years later) people started using them properly. > But this C++ language seems to grow and grow, and > new standards arrive frequently. I am pretty confused. Some people like new, exciting things, and these are the people you hear. But C++ is also a language for people like me, who are more comfortable with tools they've used for many years. I do use C++11 features (auto, ranged-for, uniform initializers, override, some of the library additions ...), but they don't make the code drastically better or different, and I didn't have to learn much to use them. /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o . |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 07 01:24PM -0800 On 1/6/2019 9:04 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >> Clever hand offs are in mind... >> ;^) > ;) I am wondering, distribution aside, if a thread can get "too" much work wrt flushing all of the ct_work structs from a ct_estack. Distributing the ct_estack's over a table would reduce, or amortize this. But, then it becomes a question of balance. When can the processing of foreign events become beneficial in nature? If a particular ct_work item takes a little while to process, then a hand off to another thread than can process subsequent work should be a win, in a sense. However, this induces the processing of foreign events. Say a thread consumed 5 work items w[0...4], and processed w[0], while 4 items w[1...4] are just sitting there. Well, if w[0] is expected to do some heavy work, we can hand off w[0] to another thread, or even pass w[1...4] as a single unit to an ct_estack for other threads to grab. The CT_WAIT is interesting to me as well. 0xDEADBEEF. Well, this can be a pointer to a thread local struct instead of 0xDEADBEEF. It would open up some interesting possibilities wrt hand off opportunities. Just brainstorming here. Will have some code that demonstrates some of this up sometime today or tomorrow. |
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