Wednesday, January 9, 2019

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fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: Jan 08 03:34PM -0800

W dniu środa, 9 stycznia 2019 00:21:54 UTC+1 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał:
> there be any praise, think on these things.
 
> Notice it says "if there be any virtue" there, Chris.
 
> The enemy seeks to tear down. God seeks to restore and build up.
 
speaking on sins of others being so miserable idiot..
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jan 08 03:41PM -0800

On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 6:16:36 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> At around 13:30 she talks about seeing what she thought was a
> raccoon
 
Interesting. It brings to mind a time I was walking down a sidewalk in a
residential neighborhood, at dusk, and everybody approaching was giving me a
wide berth, crossing over to the other side of the street. I thought to
myself, that's strange, but then glancing down, I saw a skunk walking in
step beside me. I looked down at the skunk, he looked up at me, and we
continued our walk. At the time, I thought it was pretty cool, but in
retrospect, could it, could it have been ...
 
Daniel
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 08 03:42PM -0800

On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 6:35:07 PM UTC-5, fir wrote:
> speaking on sins of others being so miserable idiot..
 
I'm sorry I don't have any testimony's to post for you in Polish,
fir. Perhaps you can search your local YouTube channel and see
if there are any testimonies of how Jesus changed people's lives
there in your country?
 
Here is one I found in English, and in Polish on the link:
 
Adam Wegrzyk from Poland
English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qekxI6X71hk
 
Uwolniony od pornografii dzięki łasce Jezusa Chrystusa
Polish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfB-tfFRqjU
 
Polish channel:
https://illbehonest.com/polish/swiadectwo-adama-uwolniony-od-pornografii-dzieki-lasce-jezusa-chrystusa
 
I cannot speak to the quality of the Polish language video.
His testimony seems genuine in the English version. And I can
testify to the legitimate videos posted on the I'll Be Honest
website in English, so I presume the Polish language off-shoot
is similar.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 08 04:13PM -0800

On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 6:05:59 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> fire.
 
> They identify demons are the spirits in the world, and that there
> are not "good spirits" and "bad spirits," but only demons.
 
Testimony of someone who grew up Catholic who later discovered the
love of Christ, and the forgiveness of sin through Him, and not
through some Earthly penance or through some kind of works:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpmGVAEa2Jc
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: Jan 08 04:15PM -0800

W dniu środa, 9 stycznia 2019 00:42:33 UTC+1 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał:
> testify to the legitimate videos posted on the I'll Be Honest
> website in English, so I presume the Polish language off-shoot
> is similar.
 
i dont get links from imbeciles moron dik... i ould rather get your photo from a jail... you can send me one
gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack): Jan 09 12:38AM

In article <q139b2$p67$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> often heard in my prayers, along with many others from these forums.
 
>> What about my friends, Stan, Kyle and Eric? Are you praying for them, too?
 
>LOL!
 
Thank you! Glad to see that someone is following along at home...
 
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"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 08 12:41PM -0800

On 1/7/2019 7:07 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> I would never do it to Chris or anybody else. But his lackadaisical
> attitude prompts me to recognize it would be an appropriate response
> by certain individuals.
 
You think of me as some sort of disobedient child? Thanks man. ;^o
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jan 08 09:24PM

On 08/01/2019 21:13, Mr Flibble wrote:
>> to eternal Hellfire.
 
> LOL.  "Jesus exists because I had a dream".  You couldn't make it up.
 
> Rick, you are so full of shit.
 
Now we have this new information as to how you became "born again" I will
throw you a bone: research something called "confirmation bias".
 
/Flibble
 
--
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who
doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." –
Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack): Jan 08 09:32PM

In article <ba161ae4-0159-475c-bc56-40febe2e2100@googlegroups.com>,
 
>I have turned my back on David because of his treatment of me over
>years. I still pray for him, as I do for you, Leigh. Your name is
>often heard in my prayers, along with many others from these forums.
 
What about my friends, Stan, Kyle and Eric? Are you praying for them, too?
 
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"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 08 03:11PM -0800

On 1/8/2019 2:46 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
 
>> Ask DNA that question.
 
> Is there a DNA in the universe that can behave in an n-ary fashion?
> 2-ary is part of n-ary... ;)
 
Interesting scene from a "corny" movie:
 
https://youtu.be/h9OBbsLYGOE
 
The DNA is more tightly packed than ours...
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 08 07:59PM -0800

On 1/7/2019 1:21 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> church service.
 
> You are slandering my name by making such a claim and I demand a public
> apology from you here in this forum.
 
I thought you mentioned something about original sin, and that we are
all sinners. Sorry if I got that wrong Rick.
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 08 08:10PM -0800

On 1/7/2019 1:34 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> billions at the cost of thousands, though it would've been His will that
> even the thousands turn away from evil and follow Him, but they would
> not, just as you (today at least) will not.
 
 
Ummm . I think there is something in the Bible where somebody asks God,
if there is a single good person in the nest of sinners, would you
destroy it? I think God said : NO.
 
 
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 08 09:00PM -0800

On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 11:10:49 PM UTC-5, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
 
> Ummm . I think there is something in the Bible where somebody asks God,
> if there is a single good person in the nest of sinners, would you
> destroy it? I think God said : NO.
 
You really should read the Bible to get an understanding of what
it says AND why.
 
The conversation was between Abraham and God, and it was over the
destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. It was ten righte (vs. 32):
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+18%3A16-33&version=KJV
 
16 And the men rose up from thence, and looked toward Sodom: and Abraham went with them to bring them on the way.
 
17 And the Lord said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do;
 
18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?
 
19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the Lord, to do justice and judgment; that the Lord may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.
 
20 And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;
 
21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.
 
22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord.
 
23 And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
 
24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?
 
25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
 
26 And the Lord said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.
 
27 And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes:
 
28 Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it.
 
29 And he spake unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for forty's sake.
 
30 And he said unto him, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there.
 
31 And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty's sake.
 
32 And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake.
 
33 And the Lord went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 08 09:07PM -0800

On 1/8/2019 9:00 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> destroy it? I think God said : NO.
 
> You really should read the Bible to get an understanding of what
> it says AND why.
 
[...]
 
I say God would not destroy if there is a single good entity therein.
However, well, why do you say fifty?
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 08 09:08PM -0800

On 1/8/2019 9:07 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
 
> [...]
 
> I say God would not destroy if there is a single good entity therein.
> However, well, why do you say fifty?
 
I mean, is forty two, too "forgiving" in nature?
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 08 09:24PM -0800

On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 12:07:55 AM UTC-5, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
 
> [...]
 
> I say God would not destroy if there is a single good entity therein.
> However, well, why do you say fifty?
 
There were not ten righteous in all of Sodom and Gomorrah, a community
of around two hundred thousand people. God destroyed them as a witness
and warning to all future generations:
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jude+7&version=KJV
 
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them
in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication,
and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an
example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
 
God was serious about destroying that perversion (homosexuality),
and He's serious about destroying the eternal soul of sinners in Hell.
It's why we ALL need Jesus. Without Him we burn. With Him wr are
forgiven.

--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 08 09:41PM -0800

On 1/8/2019 9:24 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> and He's serious about destroying the eternal soul of sinners in Hell.
> It's why we ALL need Jesus. Without Him we burn. With Him wr are
> forgiven.
 
Why would I destroy something if a good person, that happens to be gay,
is in there?
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 08 10:44PM -0800

On 1/8/2019 1:46 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> true rather than you applying error-free inductive reasoning to the
> situation which was that the dream was just a dream and that the Bible
> is little more than a beginner's guide to psychosis.
 
Don't you anything about Fantasia?
 
https://youtu.be/_-5QTdC7hOo
(the nothing scene, from The Neverending Story)
 
;^)
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 08 10:47PM -0800

On 1/8/2019 10:44 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 1/8/2019 1:46 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>> On 08/01/2019 21:34, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 4:24:13 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
[...]
 
> Don't you anything about Fantasia?
 
Correction, Don't you know anything about Fantasia? The direct quote
should be here:
 
https://youtu.be/_-5QTdC7hOo?t=85
 
Oh well, it might fit either way.
 
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 08 11:06PM -0800

On 1/8/2019 1:46 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> true rather than you applying error-free inductive reasoning to the
> situation which was that the dream was just a dream and that the Bible
> is little more than a beginner's guide to psychosis.
 
Wrt dreams, well, have you ever had a lucid dream? They are by far, the
BEST thing in the world. I mean, can you fly at will in real life? So
far, my personal best is around 45 minutes in a totally lucid dream,
where I can control damn near everything. The best. I felt like a God!
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jan 09 07:48AM

On 09/01/2019 05:24, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> and He's serious about destroying the eternal soul of sinners in Hell.
> It's why we ALL need Jesus. Without Him we burn. With Him wr are
> forgiven.
 
So Rick C. Hodgin lets his mask of respectability and civility slip. The
real Rick C. Hodgin thinks homosexuality is a "perversion". The real Rick
C. Hodgin thinks his so called "gay friends" are perverts. What a really
horrible person the Rick C. Hogin actually is.
 
/Flibble
 
--
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who
doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." –
Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 09 12:09AM -0800

On 1/8/2019 9:41 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 11:10:49 PM UTC-5, Chris M. Thomasson
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 1/7/2019 1:34 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
[...]
 
>> There were not ten righteous in all of Sodom and Gomorrah, a community
>> of around two hundred thousand people.  God destroyed them as a witness
>> and warning to all future generations:
 
Jesus Christ!
 
[...]
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 09 12:10AM -0800

On 1/8/2019 7:59 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> apology from you here in this forum.
 
> I thought you mentioned something about original sin, and that we are
> all sinners. Sorry if I got that wrong Rick.
 
Why do seem to deny saying that we are all going to burn, even the kids,
IF...
sten.unto@gmail.com (Unto Sten): Jan 08 06:57PM

> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/the-definitive-c-book-guide-and-list
> The tastes vary but certainly the books that are
> mentioned there are worth reading.
 
Thanks for the tip.
 
Best regards,
Unto Sten
"Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>: Jan 08 08:52PM +0100

On 08.01.2019 16:26, Daniel wrote:
 
> Just curious, does anyone here read the big tome books anymore, such as Lippman and Stroustrup? Does a book that purports to cover "just about everything in the language" have a place anymore?
 
> At one time, I had an early edition of Lippman on my shelf, which I used as a reference. But nobody needs a book as a reference anymore. cppreference performs that role admirably.
 
> As for programming techniques, take unicode. I did a search on unicode in my Stroustrup third edition, and find many sentences like "There are six kinds of character literals supporting Unicode" (Unicode literals.) This sounds excessive, but there are three major encodings of Unicode: UTF-8, UTF-16, and UTF-32. For each of these three alternatives, both raw and "ordinary" strings are supported." Etc. etc. etc. But nothing about emerging consensus in how to work with unicode in practical C++ applications.
 
Bjarne hasn't had time to do anything about it. Or hadn't, a year ago.
 
There is already an /established/ consensus for handling Unicode,
namely, use UTF-8 for all external text representation as well as
internal general handling, and convert to/from other UTF's e.g. for
using the ICU library, or the Windows API.
 
To use UTF-8 in simple Windows console applications in a portable way
you can use my Wrapped Stdlib header library.
 
Also, there was already the first stages of adoption of an UTF-8 i/o
library in Boost, but it required explicit use of its functionality (not
just ordinary iostreams i/o) and it didn't correctly handle line
termination in Windows, when I tried it.
 
However, the goal of Wrapped Stdlib was to introduce as /little/ as
possible that wasn't already in the standard library. It was a technical
corrigendum, so to speak. And I chose wrong: I chose to address some
compiler peculiarities, to provide automatic fixes, so that the novice
should not have to struggle with complicated technical issues just to
get up and running, but I should have known, from experience, that it's
impossible to keep up with Microsoft's sabotage-like steady stream of
new pecularities, e.g. diagnostics avalanches from perfectly valid and
good code, that one must opt out from by defining a macro...
 
 
> If I were recommending a book from the list, I would probably pick
Koenig's Accelerated C++, mostly because it's shorter. Somebody learning
C++ doesn't need an encyclopedia, for what reason would they want an
encyclopedia? But unfortunately it doesn't look like it's ever been updated.
 
Yup.
 
 
Cheers!,
 
- Alf
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